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Tipping Point: 1922

Tipping Point: 1922

November 1922. Washington, D.C. "Auto wreck." Who'll be first to pinpoint the intersection? National Photo Company glass negative. View full size.

 

Whats going on with the site?

There havent been any updates in months. anyone know why or whats going on? I love this site and would hate to see it go dormant.

[Something is wrong on your end; several photo are added each day, more than 500 since this one. -tterrace]

English Built

Frederick Henry Gore was born in Blean, Kent, England on August 30th 1882 the son of Robert and Sarah H.
On August 22nd 1903, he arrived at Ellis Island and on November 24th 1909 he married Ida C Price b July 1888 in Samuel Miller Township, Virginia.
They had 3 children Hilton (1913-2003), Mary A (1925-?), and Frederick Jnr (1928-?).
Frederick Snr died on November 23rd 1930, and Ida died in August 1973.

The Shelburne

The Shelburne apartments are at the northeast corner of 17th and   Q   S Streets NW. Completed in 1923.

[1631 S Street. Also known, over the years, as the Shelbourne. - Dave]

Oops, yes my bad: S street. For years, 17th and Q was where we went drinking.


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S It Is

I have access to a database of DC building permits. All signs point to 1631 S Street NW. The photo of the reinforced concrete frame is showing the side elevation on 17th Street.

Fred H. Gore is listed as builder on 36 building permits between 1921 and 1937. Many of those are small one and two story buildings, only a few are for high rise concrete frame buildings.

The photo date of November 1922 provided by Shorpy narrows it further. Gore had 3 permits issued prior to November 1922 for a reinforced concrete apartment building: 1925 16th Street NW (permit issued 2/23/22), 1614 17th Street NW (7/1/22), and 1631 S Street NW (8/30/22). All would have been issued with enough time to complete the amount of construction shown in the photo.

1925 16th can be eliminated because it's a midblock building but the photo was taken from the yard of a corner building, which isn't possible for a midblock building like 1925 16th St.

1614 17th Street NW can be eliminated because, although it's near a corner, it's between 2 Victorian buildings that would have appeared in the photo.

1631 S Street NW wins by process of elimination. It's across from a rowhouse at the southwest corner of 17th and S streets. In the photo, the land to the left (north) is vacant and the building to the north of 1631 S Street is an art deco apartment built in 1940, so that matches.

If you look closely at the ground floor of the concrete frame on the right, you can see that they've begun to lay up the veneer brick and set in the stone window frame for a double window with a mullion between. This detail matches the window style of 1631 S Street NW. But then again, it also matches the detailing on 1614 17th St; both buildings are the same style and within 3 blocks of each other on 17th.

American Rolls , ( Royce )

I believe it is a Locomobile Model 48 touring car .. Probably fairly new at the time , a 1920 ?? , Hard to say as they did not change much but the weather protection seems new and the paint is very shiny ( even though it had been raining ... )

Here is some info off the webs...

Locomobile was known for building some of the finest automobiles, and was considered to be the American Rolls-Royce.
In 1911, the renowned 525 cubic-inch, T-head, six-cylinder Model 48 was introduced. It would remain in production until 1924. A four-speed transmission was used and the car could cruise at 55 mph on the occasionally encountered truly good road.

Octagonal shapes, such as the lamps and instruments, were a common theme for Locomobile and helped to differentiate it from other cars

Before safety glass, seat belts and air bags-

Accidents which now would be considered fender-benders were frequently lethal, especially in cases involving ejection from the vehicle. With their high centers of gravity, cars of the early 1920s seem so vulnerable to tipping over.

Car ID

Car in middle with dogbone shaped rear window frame (which matches emblem) is a Chandler.

Possible project location

From The American Contractor, Vol 43, 1922:

Contracts awarded

Apt House (48 apts.): $100,000. 17th & Q sts., N.W. Archt Frank Russel White, 1410 G st N.W. , Owner C.F. Foley & F.R. White, 1410 G st N.W., Brk & t.c. Gen contr. let to Fred H. Gore, 1410 G st N.W., Gen. contr. taking bids on sep. contrs,

All involved had offices together ,how convenient.

Don't know the address

But I do know that if I was in business back then, I'd be in the hat business.

Tough One

It looks like it might be Constitution Avenue near the Mall, but it could be McPherson Square.

From what I found, I think it's

17th and S Streets NW

Edit: More info here:

Contracts Awarded
Apt Bldg 64 fam $150,000 8 sty
& bas 60x80 17th & S sts NW Archt
Frank Russell White 1410 G St NW
Owner AJ Howar 1111 F St NW Brk
Gen contr & carp let to Fred H Gore
1410 G St NW Gen contr taking bids
on sep contrs

From the 6/24/22 edition of The American Contractor, bottom of page 60.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Z_tYAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA12-PA60&img=1&zoom=3&...

Fred H. Gore

On page 28 of the June 24, 1922 issue of American Contractor, under "Big Project Construction News":

Contracts Awarded:
Project: Apt. Bldg.
Valuation: $150,000
Location: Washington, D.C.
General Contract to: Fred H. Gore, 1410 G St, N.W.

-- but that's the address of the builder, not the photo location.

14th and G St

Across the way the address appears as 1410 G Street.

[That's contractor Fred Gore's business address. Next guess? - Dave]

Camera vs. tipped car

I count 15 people staring directly at the camera, including the five kids in the front row of the pack in the lower left. In the competition for the crowd’s attention, the camera pulls away a goodly number from the chief attraction: the tipped car in the road. These people have no idea that in 92 years, most members of the crowd would be holding up palm-sized rectangles, photographing each other, themselves, the car, then magically sending these images off into the ethereal data warehouse of words and pictures to be shared by millions of strangers.

 
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