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Forsyth Street: 1910
1910. "Forsyth Street looking east." Our 20th large-format, high-resolution view of Jacksonville, Florida . 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative. View full size. ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/16/2014 - 11:54am -

1910. "Forsyth Street looking east." Our 20th large-format, high-resolution view of Jacksonville, Florida. 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative. View full size.
A quiet findThe level of activity at street level in these photos can be so high that to find a moment in the upper storeys is always fairly quiet.  For example: in the lower right quadrant, to the right of and above plate number 252, on the second floor beside a wide-open bay window, the woman in the white hat, with feather, seen from behind so we only see the rear side of her face.  Try as I might, I can't read what's on the window, so I can't imagine what she's there for.
[DOCTOR N.M. HEGGIE. Norman Heggie was an ophthalmologist in the Buckman Building.- Dave]
Thank you so much, Dave!  Your powers of crisp embigulation exceed my own hugely.
When the fog liftedAfter Dr Heggie's successful treatment of Mrs Shinn's eye ailment, she looked in the mirror and wondered, "Why did I ever buy this hat?"
SummertimeI think these are the greatest collection of light poles to date.  What first comes to mind on seeing the beautiful hat in the first car was the massive amount of clothing worn in 1910.  Then I look up to the top floors of these hotels, without air conditioning, and tip MY hat at the toughness of this generation! I would have cooked to death in the winter!
City tags?The license plates on the cars say Jacksonville, rather than Florida. Was this used throughout Florida, or anywhere else?
One has another tag also, but I can't read it.
[Close-up. -tterrace]
Could be his missusDr Norman Mcleod Heggie was born in Brampton, Ontario on 14 Oct 1876 the son of Scots immigrant David, and Canadian Mary Carter.
He married Jeanne Carrier (1888-1971) around 1908, and they had two children Jeanne Livingston (1909-1979) and Norman Jr (1913-1984).
The Doc died in 1932.
121 Atlantic Place remainsLooks like one of the buildings in the shot remains standing, completed just the year before the photo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/121_Atlantic_Place
You can see it in the Google Street View, with the distinctive top on the left side of the street:
http://goo.gl/yu7wiU
(The Gallery, Cars, Trucks, Buses, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

Forsyth Street: 1910
Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street, west from Main." 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative, ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/20/2012 - 3:20pm -

Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street, west from Main." 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative, Detroit Publishing Company. View full size.
If I'm not mistakenThis photo is from 'the other side of the street' of the shot we saw in this thread 
The Bisbee Building would be out of frame on the right of this shot, opposite of the Shamrock Hotel formerly located at 52 West Forsyth Street.
+98Below is the same view looking west on Forsyth Street past the intersection of Laura Street from January of 2008.
Two things I noticed immediatelyIt's interesting to note the 3-digit license plates, with another car having a TWO-digit one.
The other thing is two different women sitting alone in the passenger seats of their cars; their husbands running errands no doubt.
(The Gallery, Cars, Trucks, Buses, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

Hotel Windle: 1910
Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street west from City Hall." Note the city-issued car tags. 8x10 ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/21/2012 - 8:34pm -

Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street west from City Hall." Note the city-issued car tags. 8x10 glass negative, Detroit Publishing Co. View full size.
Nothing to see here, move along...The Windle was demolished in 1962 and replaced by the Haydon Burns Library.  Sadly, very few of the buildings in this photograph remain 102 years later:
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The only ones I can identify with any certainty are the large (hotel?) in the center of the photo and the smaller,  more classical structure next door (both of which are really showing their age):
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+98Below is the same view from January of 2008 (looking west from Ocean Street).
More of the Fire of 1901The first photo is of City Hall after the fire. The second is a view looking east along Forsyth, City Hall top left in the photo. The Shorpy image would have been taken 9 years later from Forsyth near City Hall, looking toward the photographer's vantage point in the second photo.
A lot quainter than the current City HallAnd you can see Hotel Windle behind it.
http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/166965
A few more shots at FloridaMemory.com and search for Jacksonville City Hall.
Forsyth after the 1901 fireLooking like Dresden in WWII. Pretty good recovery by 1910.
VehiclesI really like the cars in this photo, but what really caught my eye was that archetypical station wagon parked in front of the Windle Hotel. 
Hi-DefI have a 14.2 megapixel DSLR that could not have taken a picture this clear 100+ years later. Wow.
(The Gallery, Cars, Trucks, Buses, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

Broom & Board: 1910
Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Hotel Seminole (includes street cleaning activities)." The building last ... floor down from the top, five windows from the left. Forsyth and Hogan According to the hotel's letterhead , it was at the ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 03/03/2021 - 12:34pm -

Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Hotel Seminole (includes street cleaning activities)." The building last seen here. 8x10 inch glass negative, Detroit Publishing Company. View full size.
In the detailsThis just goes to show how a basic 10-story rectangular box can be made handsome with some careful and inspired detailing.  (And, yes, I read the comment by Mal Fuller in the linked post.)
Man sitting on the window ledgeOne floor down from the top, five windows from the left.
Forsyth and HoganAccording to the hotel's letterhead, it was at the corner of Hogan and Forsyth streets.
The devil isNormally davidk and I are simpatico but on this occasion I'm with Mal Fuller: This is ghastly. The detail at the top resembles fish bones. The geometric shapes beneath the windows are weird too. And those two sticky-outy suspended things over the entrances? I can't even. I admit I would have enjoyed sitting on/in these veranda/porch/overhang spaces on a pleasant day to enjoy a meal and watch the world go by, but as an architectural feature, they look like window washing platforms with roofs. Most unfortunate as this looks to have been the place to be.
Prairie School influenceJacksonville's growth in the early 1900s coincided with the Prairie School influence, and the detailing in the Seminole reflects that.  The same architect did the St. James Hotel, which is now the city hall, and its one of the great landmarks of Prairie School commercial design.  Personally, I love the style.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_Building
(The Gallery, Cars, Trucks, Buses, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

Jacksonville Skyline: 1910
Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street looking east from Hogan." The post office, Atlantic ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 10/11/2022 - 2:09pm -

Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street looking east from Hogan." The post office, Atlantic National Bank and Bisbee Building lined up along the city's Bankers' Row, with the Hotel Seminole at right. 8x10 inch glass negative, Detroit Publishing Company. View full size.
SurvivorsThe two tallest buildings are still there - with several newer buildings between. The one in the distance looks like it has been shuttered for many years. The good news is that it looks like they're planning on refurbishing it into apartments!

Ask The Man Who Owns OneThat looks like a brand new Packard Model 30 Touring sitting high and proud out front. 
And the race is onTwo additions to archfan's comment,
1) on the right -- the Hotel Seminole and whatever else was on this block of Forsyth Street have been replaced by the massive Bank of America building, and
2) the interesting dome in the distance is gone.  I wonder what it was?
The photographer from the Detroit Publishing Company caught an interesting slice of life.  In a quiet niche on the post office steps a couple is having a conversation which I believe includes romance.  A small child wanders away from them.  The man in white suspenders is sweeping away horse apples so the automobile, which is parked ahead of the carriage, won't soil its whitewall tires as it pulls away from the curb.  A bicyclist is peddling towards the photographer as a man in a white Eton jacket runs across the street ahead of him and towards the post office. A collision seems eminent.
Dome storyThe building in the distance is the Duval County Courthouse

erected in 1902 to replace the one burned in the 1901 Fire.
(And not to be confused with the similarly domed Jacksonville City Hall, hidden from view by the Bisbee Building) 
(The Gallery, Cars, Trucks, Buses, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

Bankers' Row: 1910
Jacksonville circa 1910. "Bisbee Building on Bankers' Row." The city's first sky­scraper, still standing on Forsyth Street. 8x10 glass negative. View full size. Curved Dash Olds? ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/17/2015 - 4:35pm -

Jacksonville circa 1910. "Bisbee Building on Bankers' Row." The city's first sky­scraper, still standing on Forsyth Street. 8x10 glass negative. View full size.
Curved Dash Olds?The last car parked along the curb looks like a 1903-era Curved Dash Olds.  
Whoa---I'm surprised that by 1910-ish, all horse-drawn traffic is gone, (or "evidence" of it) I suppose "banker's row" is more modern, --the early motorbike is interesting.
There is not much info on the Southern Mutual Aid Society.  The various aid societies were usually temporary and ethnic in nature and from the looks of the fellow relaxing on the balcony this one won't be open much longer.
Just an empty hulkor at least in May. I hope its being restored. I wonder what was in the cage in the front entryway.

Jacksonville's First SkyscraperThe Bisbee Building was designed by Henry John Klutho and built in reinforced concrete in 1908-1909 - but it was originally only half as wide as it is today. The left-hand bay was the original portion of the building to be built. The building's owner then asked Klutho to double it in width, adding the right-hand bay. Klutho designed several important buildings in Jacksonville in this period, in something similar to the "Chicago School" style. His most graceful Jacksonville skyscraper, the even thinner Florida Life Building, was built just around the corner on Laura Street in 1911-1912. It was not yet constructed when this photograph was made. Both skyscrapers still stand, and I believe that both are still empty.
(The Gallery, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

Bike to the Future: 1910
Bustling Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street looking east from Hogan." As in the previous view , ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 10/12/2022 - 1:50pm -

Bustling Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street looking east from Hogan." As in the previous view, the Post Office is at left, Hotel Seminole on the right. Note the city-issued JACKSONVILLE license plates. 8x10 inch glass negative, Detroit Publishing Co. View full size.
RevolutionaryBicycles were revolutionary when first presented as the Safety Bicycle in the late 1880s. Imagine quadrupling your daily travel distance! Plus many of the earliest automobiles mimicked bicycle technology with chain drive, spoked wheels, pneumatic tires, etc.
Oh, we were just admiring your automobileI couldn't find a floorplan for the Hotel Seminole.  But I did learn it and the Bisbee Building were designed by Henry John Klutho, following Jacksonville's great fire of 1901.  Klutho was in New York City in 1901, but realized an architect was about to be in considerable demand in Jacksonville, so he moved there.  He adopted a new "Prairie-School" style of design.  This style would later fall out of favor and much of his work was destroyed.  Even later, what remained was appreciated all over again.
The occupants of both of these automobiles caught my attention.  Somehow, I sense none of the men in contact with either car is the owner or rightful occupant.  As far as 'bike to the future', whoever laid their bike down on the curb may soon be reminded automobiles have a reverse gear.
Not like todayWhere are all the overweight people?
Photos Taken Some Time ApartI think the roof-level photo was taken as much as an hour or so after the ground-level one was.  In the ground-level photo, the shadow from the pole on stage right aims almost exactly at the light post, but by the second one it points several degrees toward the east, meaning the sun has moved to the west.  Fifteen degrees worth of movement would (if I remember my astronomy class correctly) mean about an hour has passed.
There are also more people on the street in the ground-level photo, but by the time of the roof-level one, at least two diners and a waiter have arrived in the balcony restaurant of the Seminole on the right.  Dinnertime, perhaps?  I also think that this was taken in the cooler half of the year, because if it was summer in Jacksonville, those people would be sweltering.
The only vehicle that still remains appears to be the one in the foreground, which has, interestingly, backed up by half a car length or so.  Similarly, the two men at it may be (if they are the same two people) be the only ones to appear in both photos.  I definitely get "showing it off to his friend" vibes!
Facing factsJamesWH's chronology seems thoroughly consistent with what must be the best evidence available ... the P.O. clock: in the earlier (presented on Shorpy) picture of Forsyth the clock shows 1:08; the aerial shot shows 2:31.
If we're to assume the shots were all made on the same day, a logical progression is: the photographer took the westernmost shot first, then this shot, crossed the street, ascended the Buckman Building and took the third. Admittedly an hour is a long time  to rise a few floors -- and the building had an elevator -- but perhaps some time was spent in setting up the camera. (Or maybe a stop was made at the Seminole's bar).
[Perhaps he was busy taking more photos. - Dave]
Easy CommuteMr. Joseph Fried (1861-1930), proprietor of the Rathskeller (117 West Forsyth), resided at 221 East Adams, a mere four blocks away. The 1910 city directory lists two phone numbers for the Rathskeller, 196 and 2637. 
In reply to HaroldOThe Wright Flyer (which made the first powered, manned and sustained flight in 1903) also used bicycle technology, as in sprocket and chain drive to the propellers. The Wright Brothers had been involved in bicycle, motors and machinery manufacture.
Hats OffAnother wonderful scene full of hats.
Hats served many practical and useful purposes.
Tipping your hat slightly to signal a greeting.
Holding your hat to your chest to signal respect or mourning;  during national anthem or funeral for example.
Waving your hat above your head to signal farewell or joy;  at a parade or ship departure for example.
Holding your hat in one hand in front of you while bowing;  an extended and respectful greeting with maximum effect.
Removing your hat while sitting in a movie theatre or church;  another signal that you respect the environment and other participants.
Society lost some useful social skills when hats stopped being worn by everyone.
Lost WorldAll the men appear well-dressed and the few women rather elegant, even seen at a distance. To state the obvious, it's an entire civilization now gone forever.
(The Gallery, Bicycles, Cars, Trucks, Buses, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

The Bisbee Building: 1910
Continuing our sojourn in Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Bisbee Building and Bankers' Row." 8x10 glass negative, Detroit ... did have "bankers' hours." Banks, Etc. This is Forsyth Street looking west. The Bisbee Building housed the Florida National ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/31/2012 - 4:15pm -

Continuing our sojourn in Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Bisbee Building and Bankers' Row." 8x10 glass negative, Detroit Publishing Co. View full size.
FittedLove how the Southern Fixture and Supply Co. fitted their awning around the streetlight.
South’s first reinforced-concrete frame high-riseInteresting building, according to this article in the Prairie School Traveler it was originally constructed to be only twenty-six feet wide as a narrow skyscraper ten stories high, emphasizing its height. After all the offices were rented before construction was finished, the owner, William A. Bisbee, directed the architect H. J. Klutho to double its size.
SignsYes, they are.
A sad sight todayCurrently the Bisbee Building (part of the Laura Street trio including the Marble Bank and Florida Life buildings) is in sad disrepair.

Custom tailoringThat awning attached to the Southern Fixture and Supply business has a neat cutout to accommodate the globe street light.
Beer on Bankers' RowIt's nice that the bankers can run down to the Rathskellar for a beer - it's only a block away.  That's back when they really did have "bankers' hours."
Banks, Etc.This is Forsyth Street looking west. The Bisbee Building housed the Florida National Bank for many years. The building with the arches was Barnett National Bank and the next white building on the right was the Atlantic National Bank.  Florida National and Atlantic became part of Wells Fargo Bank and Barnett became part of Bank of America.
Late riserThe 10-story building just beyond the Rathskeller is the Atlantic National Bank. It's still there and is in much better condition than the Bisbee. There was a race between it and the Bisbee for the title as Jacksonville's first skyscraper, but Bisbee already had its first tenants when what is now called 121 Atlantic Place was completed in October 1909.
(The Gallery, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)

Jax Noir: 1910
Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street at night." 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative, Detroit ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/17/2012 - 10:32pm -

Jacksonville, Florida, circa 1910. "Forsyth Street at night." 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative, Detroit Publishing Company. View full size.
Foggy memory tooI spent fourteen loooooong years as a Jacksonville resident and doggone if any of these recent pictures of the place looks even remotely familiar. Probably a combination of "progress," Florida-style, plus simple repressed memory.
Up to no good,or just watching the world go by - the guy sat on the wall.  I find the overall image very atmospheric with the slightly misty atmosphere and the spooky figures caught moving by the long exposure.
Ladies of the  NightNot necessarily THAT kind; the group at left. Looks like they stopped long enough to chat and register on the photo.
(The Gallery, Cars, Trucks, Buses, DPC, Florida, Jacksonville)
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