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Marvin and Owen: 1910
... Avenue. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. The Other Boy? Excuse me, I see two other boys. Is one of them not ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/18/2011 - 10:48am -

St Louis, Mo. Truants selling papers at Jefferson & Washington. 11 a.m. Monday May 9, 1910. Smallest boy is Marvin Adams, 2637 Washington Avenue. Said he got his papers "off'n de other feller." Other boy is Owen McCormack, 2651 Washington Avenue. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
The Other Boy?Excuse me, I see two other boys. Is one of them not a real boy? I know you're just reporting what you see, but it still bugs me.
[There's a similar caption on another photo showing Marvin and the boy on the right, with the boy on the left barely visible in the background. Look for it later this week. - Dave]
Sign of the TimesSign of the times that he doesn't even acknowledge the existence of the black boy in his caption. Sad.
[Owen most likely is the boy on the right. See below. - Dave]
[Or maybe not! See above. - Dave]
OwenPerhaps a sign of our times to see how quickly we make assumptions about the past and assign motivations based on the schemas we've developed in our own minds about what the past was like.  As a budding historian, I hope I remember this little episode as I "interpret."
Marvin & Owen: 1910 CensusThe 1910 census shows Marvin living at 2637 Washington Avenue. His mother runs a boardinghouse, his father works in a shoe factory. Marvin is listed as 8 years old and has two sisters and a brother.
The 1910 census shows 13 year old Owen McCormack lodging at 2651 Washington Avenue with his mother and 2 sisters. His mother is a saleslady in a department store; one sister is a cashier in a grocery store. Their race is given as white.
[Aha! Thank you. - Dave]
Marvin & OwenThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I am also intrigued by the appearance that Hine did not acknowledge the black boy. But I have a theory. In the caption, he says, "(Marvin) said he got his papers "off'n de other feller." Other boy is Owen McCormack." 
Could it be that "de other feller" is the black boy? And then having mentioned Marvin and "de other feller," Hine  names the third boy as "other boy is Owen McCormack." 
What with the racial conditions in the south (including St.Louis) at that time, it would be doubtful that the black boy would have given his name to a white man.
Any thoughts on this?
[There are plenty of black kids in the Hine photo archive, with names given probably just as often as for the white kids. - Dave]
Marvin & OwenUsing the search words "colored" and "Negro," I found only six, possibly seven black children in the Hine  Library of Congress child labor collection whose names were given. This would not be surprising, since even child labor jobs, as "undesirable" as they seem now, were generally off limits to black people. Thus, blacks are rarely represented in the Hine child labor collection. Like all his photos, he recorded the names when he was able to.   
Marvin and OwenThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I have completed stories on both Marvin and Owen.
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2015/01/01/three-st-louis-newsboys/
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine, St. Louis)

Harry McShane: 1908
... View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. wow. wow. Harry Yeah, wow. In today's world he would've ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/24/2012 - 6:59pm -

Harry McShane, 134 Broadway, Cincinnati. Sixteen years of age on June 29, 1908. Had his left arm pulled off near shoulder, and right leg broken through kneecap by being caught on belt of a machine in Spring Works factory [below] in May 1908. Had been working there more than 2 years. Was on his feet for first time after the accident the day this photo was taken. No attention was paid by employers to the boy either at hospital or home according to statement of boy's father. No compensation. View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
wow.wow. 
HarryYeah, wow. In today's world he would've gotten a crapload of money from the employers.
failure of capitalismNow THERE is a failure of capitalism.  Someone was saying the other day here that a kid working as a messenger boy was a failure of capitalism.  No, this here is a failure.
Geez.  I suppose there are kids we'll never see pictures of because they were killed and not merely injured.
capitalism failure?OK, well today the same thing happens, except the kids so injured are working in Red China.  Is that a failure of Communism, then?  
There are child workers allThere are child workers all over the world in factories, mines and other types of exploitaion exist also. And we continue to support this by buying stuff from those countries. Look at your monitor/mouse/keyboard tag. Does it read 'Made in China'?
This Harry McShane?I wonder if it's the Harry McShane that was born Dec 12, 1891 (the age would be right) and died April 1986 at the age of 94 in Dallas, TX. 
Oh, I hope it's THAT Harry McShane......because it would mean he lived a long life (94!), and it was a happy one, too (got to live in Texas!).
:-)
P.S. Don't get any ideas of moving here like Harry. We're full...
Harry McShaneAfter seeing the photo on this site, I added it to my Lewis Hine Project and did some quick research. I found him in the 1910 census, and then found some other stuff. He's not the Harry McShane in Texas. He lived nearly all his life in Ohio, and he died in Ohio in 1982, at the age of 88. He got married and had at least one child. More on this later.
OK, well today the sameOK, well today the same thing happens, except the kids so injured are working in Red China. Is that a failure of Communism, then?
The Chinese gave up on Communism years ago, in all but name.  They're now authoritarian capitalists.  So it's just another failure of way-too-laissez-faire capitalism, to be added to the list of poisoned cat food, toys with lead paint, etc.
We used to think that democracy and capitalism were opposite sides of the same coin.  No longer.  It'll be mighty interesting to see what happens now.
Capitalism failure?The company I work for opened a factory in china last year. I have heard so many stories of how bad things are there for  the average factory worker. We have it made here compared to       the Chinese. The country is filthy and the air is dirty. The water is not suitable for drinking in many areas. We have had several employees come back sick. Be thankful for living in the USA. We need to be careful to protect what we have earned.
Horrible & sadHow sad and terrible it is to think that the employees didn't even care for the boy. I'm glad I work in a good caring company as all other companies and their employees care and watch out for each other. Good old days? I think not.
Not Capitalism, Unrestricted CapitalismIf you want an explanation of why this sort of thing doesn't happen in North America today thank unions that fought for better working conditions and legislators who pushed through laws that restricted child labour and unsafe conditions. And oh yeah, wages for workers that meant that children didn't have to go to work at 14 or younger so that the family wasn't out on the streets. It isn't a failure of capitalism; what it is is a hallmark of unrestricted capitalism.
Horrible...What a horrible tragedy.  Without wading into the capitalism/communist debate, I'll just say that it is very telling that the employers wanted nothing to do with him after the accident.  I wonder if he or his father ever pursued a legal course of action against the employer...
Also, after enduring such an injury in 1908, it's amazing that he is up the next month.  Even today, such an injury could be fatal because of blood loss.
Ralph
sadsad, but how brave the boy was!  such bravery.  i want to be like him, unafraid to take a picture after such an incident. we also know the exact time the picture was taken: 2:20
Brave smileThat brave smile inclines me to think he had the resources for a happy life. I hope it was a long life, too.
Thank youFor letting us know. It's odd, but I worry about some of the people I see on here. 
I know exactly how you feel, Anonymous Tipster.I thought maybe it was just because I was a history major in college or because my grandmother was Irish and sentimental, but the people I see on Shorpy often cross my mind during the day at work!
Often, it's thankfulness that the 11-14 year-olds I see are on my school campus, not working in a mine or on a loom or on an Ohio machine that could rip an arm off.
And more recently, it's been a reality check on how tough life was for my grandparents and how I'm going to come through these tough times (am currently in the middle of a divorce) just fine as long as I have my church and the love of my friends and family. Material stuff just does NOT matter if you *make up your mind* to be happy...
Isn't it wonderful how we're all connected? :-)
Fate of these peopleI sometimes wonder about the fate of some of these people in the pictures. They are/were real people with real lives, loves, happiness, and sadness. They are not just old pictures but windows into the past. It does me good to know that this man lived on and had a life after his misfortune. I love this site!
Attn: Joe Manning Re: Harry McShaneI'd just like to thank Joe for all the hard work he's putting into the Lewis Hine Project and for keeping us Shorpy viewers informed about these kids.
Harry McShaneIt looks like I spoke too soon, and the mystery deepens. This is Joe Manning again from the Lewis Hine Project. I talked to the granddaughter of the McShane who I appeared to identify as the boy in the photo. She said her grandfather had two arms and it couldn't be him. Well, it looks like she was correct. Looking further, there were two McShane boys who would have been 16 years old in 1908, who lived at 134 Broadway, Cincinnati. One was Henry (Harry?) in the 1900 census, father Peter. The other was William in the 1910 census, also father Peter. Both disappear into thin air after that. Could William and Henry (Harry?) have been the same person, or could they have been twins? If twins, could Henry (Harry?) have died between 1908 and 1910? I am going to try to get information from the Cincinnati death records to see if Henry (Harry?) died in the early 1900s. I live in Massachusetts. Anyone out there live near Cincinnati who could go to the vital records office and look it up? The search goes on.
Thanks JoeThank you we really do care
Amen to that!Thanks, Joe!
Harry McShaneThis is Joe Manning again, from the Lewis Hine Project. I finally caught up with Harry. He died in Cincinnati one month short of his 86th birthday. Despite his injuries and disability, he worked for the railroad for many years. See the details at http://www.morningsonmaplestreet.com/harrymcshane1.html
134 Broadway134 Broadway is right next to the river, now basically a parking area for the ballpark.  An "underpass" as it were.  Back then it was probably shantytown or tenements.
Thanks.Joe, your info is amazing. I'm glad he lived a long life.
Thanks, JoeYour research makes this website even more powerful than it would otherwise be.
Cincinnati BottomsThere's an article in today's Cincinnati Enquirer that gives some detail about the history of this area, known as the Bottoms ...
Harry McShaneThis is Joe Manning. The link to my story about Harry has been changed. It is now:
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/harry-mcshane-page-one/
(The Gallery, Cincinnati Photos, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Vermont Mill Boys: 1910
... working one year. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. Mill Boys Not sure what Hine meant by these boys "running a small ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/24/2012 - 7:04pm -

August 1910. Every one of these was working in the cotton mill at North Pownal, Vermont, and they were running a small force. Dave Noel, 14; Theodore Momeady, 15, working three years. Albert Sylvester, 16, working one year; Eugene Willett, 13, working one year; Arthur Noel, 15, working one year; P. Tetro, 15, working one year; T. King, 14, working one year. Clarence Noel, 11, working one year. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
Mill BoysNot sure what Hine meant by these boys "running a small force."  At least he didn't say they lived in filthy tenement flats with untidy kitchens and beer-swilling fathers.
You can tell by the lint on their clothes what the air was like inside the mill.  I've been inside one.  The noise of all the looms clattering away is deafening. The workers wore earplugs.
[Hine is saying the mill was "running a small force," i.e. work was slack, not many employees. - Dave]
Vermont Mill BoysThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. The first child laborer I researched was Addie Card, a girl who was photographed at this mill, probably on the same day. You can see the whole story of the search for Addie at http://www.morningsonmaplestreet.com/addiesearch1.html
KidsThe boy third from the left appears to be rolling a cigarette ... and how could they work barefoot all day?
[The farther back in time you go, the more kids (and people in general) you'll find without shoes. - Dave]
Haunting...I have to admit that the look on the face of the middle boy (the short one) is absolutely haunting.  He looks worn out and old beyond his years.
Many of the kids who worked in the mills of upper New York state and Vermont were kids of expatriates from here (Montreal) looking for jobs.  
Dave Noel, Theodore Momeady, Albert Sylvester (Sylvestre), Eugene Willett (Willette), Arthur Noel, P. Tetro (Thétreault) and Clarence Noel are all French Canadian names (some like Sylvester and Willett are Americanized).
Pat
Noel family of PownalThe Phillip and Rosa Noel family of Pownal (per the 1910 census) have children Lilian age 16, Arthur 15, David 8, Clarence 11, Nelson 8, and Mabel 5. The parents had 7 children so one has died.  They are listed as born in Massachusetts and French Canada with all the previous generations born in Canada.  The dad is a foreman at the cotton factory and the children include 2 spoolers -- but these are the two oldest. The four younger children are listed as unemployed.
ShoelessMy father in law and his brother (both born around 1925 in Oregon) got shoes for Christmas more than one year. That meant going to school barefoot until then, as they'd grown out of last year's shoes by summer.
North PownalOur family lives in one of the foreman houses on Route 346, sold by the Berkshire Spinning Mill to Arthur Smith right before the mill was turned into a tannery. My daughter is doing a research project on the spinning mill. Her focus is the daughter of Arthur Smith; her name was Naomi. Wondering if you can provide any more on North Pownal between 1880 and 1930?
Vermont Mill BoysI have been down Route 346 and by the mill. My grandfather James Daughton married Vitaline Bechard in 1901 at St. Joachim RC Church in Readsboro, Vermont. They both worked in that mill. One of Vitaline's sister married a Tetro. Could be the boy P. Tetro as shown in the picture. Both families moved to Adams, Massachusetts, and worked at Berkshire Fine Spinning until they died. Their kids worked there too. What an existence working in the mills. My mother worked there at 14. I would be interested in any info you might have on the North Pownal Mill and North Pownal in general during that time.
Thanks,
Dan Harrington
Vermont Mill BoysThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. My comment below, dated 1-31-08 included a link to my story of Addie Card, who was also photographed at this mill. That link has changed. It is now:
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/addie-card-search-for-an-ame...
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Cigarette Girl: 1911
... doubtful. View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. Billboard What does the bottom of the Coca-Cola billboard say? ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 02/10/2010 - 7:14am -

June 1911. Ethel Shumate. Has been rolling cigarettes in Danville (Virginia) factory for six months. Lives at 614 Upper Street. Said she was 13 years old, but it is doubtful.  View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
BillboardWhat does the bottom of the Coca-Cola billboard say?
[5¢ relieves fatigue sold everywhere - Dave]
Ethel's ageThe 1910 census lists Ethel as 12.  She's listed as the first child of James C. and Lucy L. Shumate living at 614 Upper St.
Horse Trough?What is that next to the fire hydrant? A public trough for horses maybe?
Horse TroughIt's awfully shallow for a trough, at least from this angle, but that's what I thought it was, too, since they had them then. I'm thinking now it is a spittoon or a place to dispose of cigarette/cigar butts. This was the era you would see "Don't spit" signs on the streetcars; not only was it dirty, but it spread tuberculosis.
[It's a cast-iron horse waterer, with plumbing. Somewhere around here I have a picture showing it being used. - Dave]
Ethel Shumate 1898-1981The Social Security Death Index shows an Ethel Shumate, born on 28, Jan 1898, which would have been this girl's birth year according to the 1910 census, who died January 1981 in Flint, Michigan. There are only nine Ethel Shumates listed so it is likely her. Perhaps she never married or was divorced.
She Was Telling The Truth All Along.So, while the photo's caption sat around for 100 years with Hine's proclaiming Ethel's age of 13 was "doubtful", we know now that she was telling the truth all along! Rest in peace Ethel!
[Lewis Hine was frequently "doubtful" in his caption notes as to whether these kids were as old as they said they were. But for every name we or our readers have been able to check in the Social Security Death Index, the "doubtfuls" all turn out to have been telling the truth, Shorpy himself among them. - Dave]
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Celery Cola: 1908
... St. August 1908. View full size. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. This is as close to a Hine self-portrait as we've seen. Who can tell us ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/10/2011 - 1:37pm -

John Howell, an Indianapolis newsboy. Makes 75 cents some days. Begins at 6 A.M., Sundays. Lives at 215 W. Michigan St. August 1908. View full size. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. This is as close to a Hine self-portrait as we've seen. Who can tell us about Celery Cola?
Celery ColaMy guess is that is was similar to Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray, a celery flavored soft drink.
http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/drbrowns/
Celery flavored ?Yuk!
Celery SodaYou can find it in any deli in New York; I believe it's a regional treat. Dr. Brown's is the most famous. Here's the Wikipedia entry on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cel-Ray
Celery Colasounds to me like blow cola
i found this little paragraph at: http://www.greenparty.org/coke.html
The birth of Coca-Cola can not be properly understood without knowledge of its broader historical-pharmacological background.  With the coming of capitalism, workers were forced into long hours of hard and tedious employment.  As a reaction, various stimulants and narcotics began to find a mass market; tobacco, coffee and tea first and then in the 19th century opium, morphine and cocaine.  By the 1880s, many cocaine laced soft drinks had become popular, drinks with names such as Celery Cola, Pillsbury Koke, Kola-Ade, Kos-Kola, Cafe-Cola, and Koke.  The reason Coca-Cola rose to national and than international prominence out of this ocean of syrupy stimulation may in part have been due to Pemberton's special "secret recipe, but more likely it was superior marketing; a job done by others who followed him.
Another interesting one:
http://www.sodamuseum.bigstep.com/generic.jhtml?pid=10
-cheers
www.donkeyrunner.com/blog
VeggieApparently, like many colas back in the late 1800s, it had cocaine in it. The USDA filed suit against the company because the company did not label that it had both cocaine and caffeine in it. 
You can read about the USDA's interesting cocaine crackdown in soda (circa 1910) here - http://www.bottlebooks.com/Cocastory/coca_mariani.htm
Celery Cola Cont'dA couple CC newspaper ads I found from 1926. Click here and here for the full-size versions.


Celery ColaGoogle produced a number of results for " celery cola" "formula" - here are the two most relevant results from the first few pages:
www.southernbottles.com/Pages/Mayfield/Mayfield.html
(lots of info, but no recipe or formula...)
www.sodamuseum.bigstep.com  (only a passing reference, in the history of Coca Cola)
There may be more but my library time is up.
Enjoy! :-)
Celery Cola origin...Uh, why not just Google :Celery Cola Bottling Co., Danville, Virginia" and see what comes up?  That's what Google is for after all.  (You'll find it on the Danville site.)  Happy Sunday.  E=Mcee-flared...Richard Laurence Baron, www.signalwriter.blogspot.com
[The page you're referring to is about Porter Brewing in Danville, and how it switched from beer to Celery Cola. But it doesn't have anything to say about the origins of Celery Cola. This was just the local bottler for that part of Virginia. - Dave]
Celery ColaI have nothing to add to the above, but notice how similar the branding (font) is to later Cola-Cola.
[True. Although Coca-Cola was earlier, not later. This  photo was taken in 1908; Coca-Cola got its start in 1885. - Dave]
Celery ColaCelery Cola was invented by James C. Mayfield in the early 1890's and first sold at the Atlanta Cotton States Exposition in 1895 in Hutchinson stoppered bottles. Mayfield was a partner with Coca-Cola inventor John Pemberton in the 1880's and became president of the Pemberton Medicine Company on the old doctor's death. 
Mayfield was involved with the Wine-Coca Company of Atlanta and Boston in the early 1890's before venturing out solo with Celery Cola and Koke. He opened a factory in Birmingham in 1899 and soon had branches at St. Louis, Nashville, Richmond, Denver, Dallas and Los Angeles. Celery Cola was sold across the US, Canada, Mexico, Cuba, and as far away as Australia by 1906. Mexican General Pancho Villa was a fan of the drink bottled by a local franchisee in Vera Cruz.
In 1909 Mayfield formed the Koke Company in Louisiana. By 1911 it was reorganized as the Koke Company of America and Mayfield's Cola was sold extensively under the trade names Koke and Dope. Coca-Cola claimed ownership of both Koke and Dope even though Mayfield owned both registered trademarks. The two rivals wound up in the US Supreme Court in 1920 and Koke was declared an invalid trademark. 
Mayfield continued to sell Celery=Cola and Dope and introduced other soft drinks throughout the 1920's. 
I am working on a book on Mayfield and his various enterprises and would appreciate any new information.
celerycola@yahoo.com
Very nice siteI am the great-grandson of James I. Thanks for your site. Warmest regards,
James C. Mayfield IV
Celery Cola bottlehello, i  cant help you with info about Mr. Mayfield, i was actually hoping you could tell me more about celery-cola bottles, i found one yesterday that says it was bottled in danville, va?.......-brad
Celery ColaI too am a great-grandson of James C. Mayfield.  If you would be interested in contacting me for further details my e-mail is jrukenbrod@nc.rr.com.
Rgds, Joe
Koke and DopeNever realized there had been a soda called Dope.  When I moved to Tennessee in the 80s, some of the folks there referred to Coke as "dope."  The first time the guy at the convenience store asked this kid from Baltimore if he could put my dope in a poke, I was completely confused.
Celery ChampagneI have a copy of a circa 1898 photo of the Dr. Pepper Company in Dallas. The picture shows a wagon in front of the building, both the wagon and the building have advertising on for Dr. Pepper, Zuzu Ginger Ale, and something called Celery Champagne. I googled "Celery Champagne" but there was no match. Could the champagne be similar to Celery Cola, and what is celery cola?? 
This picture sits above my desk at work, so it catches my eye dozens of time a day. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could satisfy my curiosity on the whole celery champagne/celery cola thing I'd appreciate it.  
Celery Cola CapI was reading the various comments regarding Celery Cola when I remembered I had seen a small newsie wearing a cap with the Celery Cola logo.  He is first row, second from right, next to that poor cross eyed boy in this photo.  Don't some of these pictures just break your heart?
Origins of promotional headgearIt struck me that the most American thing I can think of which nobody ever mentions is the advertising ballcap. This paperboy is a prime example from 1908 and I bet it wasn't new then. You'd think his paper would have outfitted him and his confreres with caps with the paper's name on it, for goodness sake! Celery Cola with a direct ripoff of Coca-Cola font was his lot. In a crowd at going to work or leaving work times, it would seem these diminutive boys would have benefited from having a cap with the paper's name on it. After all, anyone in the police, military or fire services had hats that identified them and had for a good century one way or the other.
I grew up in England before my parents took my family to Canada in the late 1950s as immigrants. I was used in the UK to a cap for my school that had a logo sewn into it. Cricket caps, which were not much different, had similar logos, and had origins going back to the 1700s, so the baseball cap as such wasn't an American invention. But using it purely as an advertising vehicle was. Can't say there was a whole bunch of promotional ballcaps in Canada in 1959, but a decade later it all started in earnest when the super-cheapy adjustable holed headband was invented.
After a visit to the UK in 1993, I sent a big package of different advertising ballcaps to my grandnieces and nephews. This was met with a dull thud of indifference, and the adults gently told me they regarded advertising hats as a bit crass. Five years later, that opinion had changed as times changed over there, and my by now vintage caps were "just the job".
Yes, I searched for the history of promotional headgear, but it seems to be a topic nobody has paid much attention to. Makes you wonder.
(The Gallery, Indianapolis, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Carrying-In Boy: 1911
... week and night shift next week. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Rob Kidd On the Library of Congress record for ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/15/2012 - 9:47am -

June 1911."Carrying-in" boy in Alexandria Glass Factory, Alexandria, Virginia. Works on day shift one week and night shift next week. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Rob KiddOn the Library of Congress record for this photo there's a note that says on the back of the caption card someone has written "Rob Kidd?" So this might have been the boy's name.
This is one of my favourite Hine photos, I think that the weary expression on the boy's face is exactly what Lewis Hine wanted to capture and bring to the public.
Serious workBet these guys didn't go home after work and play on their PS2's and Wii's.
Rob KiddThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. Thanks to a previous comment, I have identified the boy as Robert Ellis Kidd, born in Virginia about 1898. In the 1910 census, he is living in Alexandria, and everyone in his immediate family, except him, is listed as working at the glass factory. In the 1920 census, he is living with his widowed father and four brothers in Baltimore. In the 1930 census, now listed as Ellis Kidd, he is living in Amherst, Virginia, with his wife and 3-year-old daughter, both named Mary, and he is working for a lumber company. From that date on, he does not appear in any of the online records that are commonly available. His oldest brother, Bradley Kidd, was buried in Arlington National Cemetery on March 13, 1952.
Rob KiddI have a correction to make. The Ellis Kidd I found in the 1930 census in Amherst, VA, is not Rob, after all. I later found Robert Ellis Kidd in the 1930 census in Alexandria, and he's married with five children. I am still looking for more information.  
Mr. Manning - more on Robert Ellis KiddMr Manning -
Your request from the Fairfax Genealogical Society was referred to the VA Room, where I am a volunteer.  Obviously you have found a descendent of Mr. Kidd's.  I was able to ascertain through his WWI registration (dated Sept. 11, 1918)  that he was born September 29, 1898, Del Ray, Alexandria, Virginia.  It states that his occupation was a brakeman for the R.F. & P.R.R. -- the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac Railroad.  His height was short; Build - medium, Eyes blue and color of hair Light Brown.  His nearest relative at the time was Joseph M. Kidd, 17 N. Highland Ave., Baltimore, MD. 
Hope this helps. If you should need to get a copy of the WWI registration, please contact the Virginia Room at the Fairfax City Regional Library - 703-293-6227 and press 6.
Kathe Gunther
Volunteer researcher
Virginia Room
Robb Kidd againJoe Manning again, of the Lewis Hine Project. I found one of Robert Kidd's daughters, and she is living with her 101-year-old mother, who was Robert's wife. Amazing. They've never seen the photo. Robert died in 1960.
Wow!Thank you for posting this incredible photo!  I googled myself and have now found your collection--a true treasure.
Rob KiddThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I interviewed Robert Kidd's daughter. She sent me several photos of him as an older man. You can see the photos and the interview at www.morningsonmaplestreet.com/robertkidd1.html
Re: Rob KiddWow.  Thank you for your efforts, Mr. Manning.  I appreciate your work as much as I do Dave's.  I'm glad you were able to connect with the family and provide them with this picture.  How amazing that his wife is still alive!
Rob KiddThis is Joe Manning, who wrote the story about Rob Kidd. The link to that story has been changed. It is now:
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/robert-kidd-page-one/
(The Gallery, Factories, Kids, Lewis Hine)

302 Mott Street: 1911
... irregularly. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. Dirt Robert, You need to click on the full size option. The ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 09/09/2011 - 10:29am -

December 1911. Family of Mrs. Mette making flowers in a very dirty tenement, 302 Mott Street, top floor. Josephine, 13, helps outside school hours until 9 P.M. sometimes. She is soon to be 14 and expects to go to work in an embroidery factory. Says she worked in that factory all last summer. Nicholas, 6 years old and Johnnie, 8 yrs. The old work some. All together earn only 40 to 50 cents a day. Baby (20 months old) plays with the flowers, and they expect he can help a little before long. The father drives a coach (or hack) irregularly. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
DirtRobert,
You need to click on the full size option.
The floor is dirty, the door has small child "art", the table cloth is dirty and has numerous holes.
I'm sure they are doing their best under who knows what type of circumstances.
Where's the dirtThe notes state, "a very dirty tenement."  There are some things like a wash-tub and a scrubbing-board that are in plain view.  Maybe those thing cold have been stowed a bit better.  But the wall cabinets have lites you can see the shelves inside and the insides seem to be in order. The floor is clean.  The women's clothing seems to be quite nice.  Those boys look fine with their jackets and even a scarf on one.  The only thing that shows something a bit out of order is the dark blotches on the oil cloth. Most likely holes.  The house keeping looks great to me.
Making flowersI've seen other flower photos here... who do they make the flowers for and what are they used for?  Hats maybe?  Also, are they real or silk?  Must be fake right? 
[Probably made for clothing manufacturers in the garment district. I'm not sure how they made artificial flowers back then. Although we do have some photos of real roses being dipped in white wax. - Dave]
Dirt  If you look at the wall by the mirror you can see the "dirt" on the wall.  My guess is that it is from smoke from a cook stove or coal heater.  People used to scrub down their walls every spring to remove the grime accumulated from a winter of heating and cooking.  I guess the comment of "very dirty" spoke to the grime on the walls as much as anything else.
  Actually if you look at the table and other furniture in the room they seem pretty ornate.  A family fallen on hard times?  Dragging once nice stuff from place to place, each place a little more worse for wear than the last.
Not DirtyPoverty is not the same as being dirty. The linoleum on that floor may be a wreck from being where one enters the house. Perhaps they don't have the money to go out and replace it. The baby's high chair may also be putting black marks on the floor as it gets dragged around. They also might have to haul some coal upstairs for the stove. 
These folks lived in a world of maybe 10 people in an apartment the size of the average kids bedroom these days. They are so poor that the entire family including kids is working to keep their heads above water financially. These weren't the days of handi-wipes and swiffers and vacuum cleaners and kids laying around all day playing on their computers and listening to their ipods. 
BTW, the kids clothes all look very clean. Any mess on a baby is because it's a baby. There's no washer and dryer sitting nearby to pop the kid's jammies in every time they get a little mess on them.
If you're ever in New York, you can get an eye opening introduction to how how immigrants to America lived down on "the lower east side" by going to this museum. I've been there. Take the tour of a real tenement which was purchased and "saved for historical/educational purposes.
http://www.tenement.org/
Go read the works of Jacob Riis and look at his photos. It's a testament to the human spirit that these people left their homelands to come to a new country to try to get a better life for themselves and their kids. This is the story behind Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty. It's the story behind the American dream.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Riis
Dismissing things as dirty misses the point.
Thanks for sharing the photo, however. It's appeciated.
[The captions describing these photos are by photographer Lewis Hine, written around 100 years ago. "Dirty" is his description, not ours. - Dave]
Re: Not DirtySomething we mention every now and then: The captions describing these tenement photos were written by photographer Lewis Hine almost 100 years ago. "Dirty" is his description. It helps to remember that he is trying to paint a bleak picture for his audience -- the U.S. Congress -- in his organization's effort to end the practice of child labor.
StagingSomething to remember about Hine's photos is that they are not "candid" photos.  At this period of time, taking a photo like this required a big heavy camera on a tripod, and a flash powder apparatus.  Probably the table had to be moved back toward the wall and sink to "get it all in."  Since it is a "staged" photo, I'm sure Hine controlled what was in the photo to get his story across.
[That would be posed, not "staged." Big difference. - Dave]
Dirty TenementsThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. Hine had a habit of commenting about the cleanliness and neatness of his subject's houses or apartments. I suspect that it might have just been a value judgment based on his own preferences. Perhaps he was very fastidious, maybe picking that up from his mother when he was growing up in Wisconsin. We can't assume that he was just trying to exaggerate for effect. I did research on a woman who was photographed in her house in Leeds, Mass. She was putting bristles on toothbrushes. Hine's caption, in part, says, "putting bristles into tooth brushes in an untidy kitchen." I interviewed the woman's granddaughter, who had never seen the photo. When she saw the caption, she said, "Untidy kitchen? Gramma was spotless. You could eat off her floor."  
Point Taken DaveGood point, Dave. Thanks for clarifying that.
[One of my many pet peeves. I could start a zoo! - Dave]
Dirty? Untidy?Thanks for the great insight, Joe. It sounds like Mr. Hine had a few quirks of his own. Don't we all?
BeautyThey may be poor but they do have a gorgeous opalescent vase standing on the shelf in the upper right hand corner.
I lived there302 Mott Street, 5th floor.  Small apt, typical for NYC.  great location.  Miss the city.
EurekaMrs. Mette was Maria Auletta/Avoletti Motta, who lived with her husband Joseph and  eventually with their nine children born between 1896 and 1920. By the time this photo was taken Maria and Joseph were naturalized American citizens who had spent most of their lives in the US (after being born in Italy). Oldest daughter Lucy is not picture or mentioned in the caption. Baby was Daniel, born in 1910.
Joseph died in 1919 at the age of about 50, while the children eventually married and mostly moved to Long Island.
The family lived at 213 Mott Street in 1905 and 105 Thomson Street in 1915 (no 1910 listing).
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine, NYC)

Little Fattie: 1910
... old. Been at it one year." View full size. Photo by Lewis Wickes Hine. Little Fattie This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/24/2012 - 7:06pm -

May 9, 1910. St. Louis, Mo. "Newsboy. Little Fattie. Less than 40 inches high, 6 years old. Been at it one year." View full size. Photo by Lewis Wickes Hine.
Little FattieThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I recently identified this little boy. I will be interviewing one of the descendants soon. I got the St. Louis Post-Dispatch to publish the photo and an article, and a family member recognized the boy.
Fattie and FamilySo this is what was considered "fat" back then. I look forward to learning about Fattie and his family.
Cutie!Boy, doesn't he look like trouble waiting to happen!
Little FattieTo Joe Manning: Once you have it on hand, would you please forward me a copy:
daniellemathias@gmail.com
How dirty life was back then.His shoes, and the sidewalk and the base of the streetlamp show clearly how physically dirty life was back then.  Add to this probably once a week baths and it really was incredible.  
Still sellin' papersThis little guy made a recent appearance (10/15/08) in the Loudoun Times-Mirror newspaper (Leesburg, Va) in an ad for itself celebrating more than 200 years of history. Included was a photo credit to Lewis Hine. If the paper gets around to posting the page on-line I'll link it here.
Little Fattie: 1910This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I have finally posted my story of this boy. He was quite a guy.
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/george-okertich-page-one/
MelancoliaMesmo não vivendo a época, nem nunca visto antes essa fotografia, me causou melancolia. Por que será??
Little FattieThis photo was used in a full page b/w bleed advertisement in either Forbes or Fortune Magazine, sometime in the late Sixties or early Seventies.  The headline across the top in dropout type:
By diligence, a quick-witted young fellow can rise from rags to riches.
Below, centered and also in dropout type: Fortune or Forbes.  
I loved it so much when I first saw it, I had a photostat made of it and mounted it on foamcore board.  I have it still and it still swells my heart with pride in the best productive ethic and values to be found the world over.  
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine, St. Louis)

One Year Old: 2008
... most fun I've ever had on the computer!! (ShorpyBlog, Lewis Hine) ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 02/14/2008 - 4:26am -

Shorpy is a year old today! Thanks to the many thousands of visitors and commenters and contributors who have helped make this Web site the remarkable place that it is. And of course we wouldn't be here without the efforts of the photographers whose pictures appear here, and the conservators and archivists who have preserved their work and made it available online through the Library of Congress. This might also be a good time to reflect on the life of our namesake, Shorpy Higginbotham, whose likeness animates these pages and spirit inhabits them. And now on with the show. Only a zillion more pictures to go   .  .  .
Congratulations!!Congratulations!!
Happy birthdayThe site looks old for its years.  Thanks for all the hard work. It is much appreciated!
Congrats on 1 year!I have throughly enjoyed your site so far, and I can't wait to see what the next year brings.
One yearThanks to Dave and Ken for a great site, looking foward to another year of great pics and even better comments. Shorpy will always be a part of us.
Happy Birthday!I have been checking this site daily for months. It's one of my favorite web destinations ... keep up the great work!
Congrats!Congratulations on the one year mark!
This is a great, great service.
Happy Birthday!Wow, has it been a year already?  Amazing how time flies when you're having fun.  I must say I feel horrible that I haven't submitted more of my own family photos, but life and other projects have distracted me.
But I'd like to send a bit thank you to you guys at Shorpy/Plan 59 for all the hard work you put into this site.  I find it both entertaining and educational.
Don't forget to make a wish!
TK
http://unidentifiedfamilyobjects.blogspot.com/
And we wait eagerly... for a zillion pictures to see. It's been great checking Shorpy out for last year, it will be even more so in times to come.
CongratulationsCongratulations to the Shorpy staff on your one year anniversary!  Keep up the excellent work.  
Happy Birthday!Happy birthday Shorpy and thanks for many wonderful hours of viewing!
Congratulations!Excellent pages, I've been addicted for few months now. Keep that way and I will be very happy. Old photos just have that 'something'.
Happy Birthday!Happy Birthday! You are doing a tremendous job showcasing these great pictures, thank you very much.
Every single day, this siteEvery single day, this site posts a picture that educates, entertains, and delights me.  I've learned more about the way Americans lived from here than I ever did in history classes.  Here's to many more years!
¡Feliz cumpleaños!Happy birthday to one of the most interesting sites! ¡Feliz cumpleaños!
CongratsCongrats on your anniversary. I very much enjoy these slices of life, and thank you (and the LOC) for making them available to us. 
Happy Anniversary!I love this site.
Congratulations!Congratulations! Shorpy is one of the few sites (apart from weather, traffic and work related) that I visit at least once a day. The growing collection of pictures by itself is interesting enough, but Dave's dry sense of humour is the cherry on the cake. Keep it up!
Thanks Shorpyi hardly ever comment on this site, but i view it everyday.  shorpy.com is my homepage so i see it whenever i go online.  this is the perfect time to thank you for providing me with access to some of the greatest photos ever snapped on a what is undoubtedly one of the greatest sites on the web.  keep em coming.  i'll keep enjoying.
Happy Anniversary!Has it only been one year?  You have done a lot of work and created a blog that is a delight to visit.  More than that, you have developed a community that I'm proud to be part of.    Here's to many more anniversaries to come.
Congratulations and thanks!I came across this site following a link to the "CONDEMNED TO DEATH" triptych (it is still the bookmarked page for the site). 
This is my favorite website. I tell anyone who'll listen about it and I look at it at least once EVERY DAY!
I can't tell you how much I enjoy and appreciate the site.
Best to you and yours!
CongratulationsCongratulations on a year.  I found this site ages ago and it's one of the first feeds I check every day.
Keep up the good work!
Shorpy.comFantastic website! Great photographs, taking you all the way into 19th century! Congratulations!!! Wish you all the best.
Thank you and well doneThis site is an extraordinary piece of work, one of 2-3 I visit almost every day.  The combination of art, scholarship, history and commentary are almost unique.  I'm looking forward to more excellence and am glad I only missed the first 11 months.
Happy AnniversaryThis is a wonderful site and I visit it every day. Keep up the great work (please)! I have learned so much about the generation before me that I could not have ever known without  this site. I am a baby boomer and remember my parents and grandparents talking about how things were when they were young. Now I can get a "picture" of how life really was then. Thank you so much. 
386 imagesI've got 386 images from this site on my hard drive.  I visit at least twice a day and I'm never disappointed.  Here's wishing you many more.
Thanks!Thank you so much for the work you do. I was admiring the photographs of Dorothea Lange and thinking about her skill in using film and light, when I realized yet again that it would not be possible to admire her work if you were not such a wizard with Photoshop and if you did not show such good judgment in its use. I appreciate your  thoughtful approach to all of  the material, and your wit--and your encouragement of the use of spell checkers.
Thank you...Happy birfday Shorpy!  This site is the bomb and I enjoy coming here to view these little bits of our shared past!
Thank youThank you, thank you, thank you!
Happy BirthdayI'm new to the site, but I'm addicted! Thank you so much for all the hard work.
Congrats and Happy BirthdayYou've made a fan out of me!  May there be many more!
Happy Anniversary!I stumbled across this site quite by accident about a month ago and am absolutely addicted!  I've told all my friends that they've got to check this out.  Keep up the awesome work - if you don't there's going to be a lot of people in "withdrawal"!!
I wish to addMy congratulations to the many others that you have received.  This is a wonderful site. I visit each and every day and really appreciate the hard work that you do each day.  Once more congratulations to Shorpy.com and long may Shorpy's memorial blog continue.
Woohoo!!Well, it's no surprise, considering how great this site is! The real surprise would be if it was gone! Well, let's not think such ridiculous things. Happy Birthday!!!
Thanks Shorpy !I would like to offer a "Toast" to Shorpy and all involved in this great website. I can't wait to get my daily dose of pictures. Hip Hip Hooray....long live the memories. 
Congratulations!I love Shorpy. Happy first anniversary, and may there be many, many more!
[Thanks to everyone who has signed the birthday register today! It's all a little overwhelming. - Dave]
Only a Year?Wow, this site's so extensive and wonderfully maintained, I thought for certain you'd been around much longer than a year! Thanks for the hard work, and congratulations!
A great year!And rest in peace, Shorpy, where ever you are.  May the next life bring you happiness not found in this one.
The best site on the webShorpy is . . .
ShorpyA daily pleasure for me. Thanks for a great year.
Thanksfor a wonderful site! I stop by at least once per day and thoroughly enjoy these well selected and superbly presented glimpses into the past.
Denny Gill
Chugiak, Alaska
Happy Birthday!I check Shorpy for new photos almost every evening and especially love the Kodachromes. Thanks for all your hard work on this great site!
CongratsIs it only one year?  You've done an important and beautifully creative job. I'm a regular visitor and I've learned so many things and have been inspired. I love that Shorpy represents the site. He is the very courageous, indomitable symbol of working America. 
Congrats and the BookI found this site few months ago and got hooked. I pray that this site will continue another year. I am looking forward to buy the book where all photos with background information put together. It will be a great addition to my huge library.
Congrats AgainOne of my favorite bookmarks! – happy birthday.
Thanks!Shorpy is one of few sites that I have in a favorites folder named "daily". 
A simple idea very well executed.
Me TooLove the photos, the information, and I also enjoy the reader comments and sense of community.  Thank you very much!
Dave & KenThank you both, and anyone else working at Shorpy, for the Post Civil War History and Photography course. I think the regular participants should receive college credit. I  can't tell you how much I enjoy my daily (and sometimes hourly) visits. Keep it up.
Happy BirthdayLike everyone has mentioned, happy 1st birthday and I hope this is the start of something long lasting.  It is a treat to drop by every few days and see the wonderful photos - and read the many comments from folks who know the details within these vintage images.  Keep up the good work.
Happy Birthday Dear ShorpyThank you for the amazing work in showing us the pictures of Library of Congress. I loved the huge archive but your site is like a special guide through the database. I also noticed that the comments are adding details and new informations about the pictures, this is useful also for the Library of Congress. I loved the story of Addie Card, for instance. I check the site daily and it'a lovely pause while I am working.
You have great taste in choosing the best images and the design of the web is very nice. I hope you will keep doing this work.
I am a deputy photo editor of a national magazine in Italy and unfortunately I don't usually research so much on LOC images, but sometimes it happens. I'd like to ask you if there will be in the future a "search" option. This could be extremely useful for my work while researching archival images.
Congratulations and compliments.
All my best. Paola Vozza.
[Thanks, Paola! We already have a "search" option. - Dave]

"Happy Birthday to You "Happy Birthday To You
Happy Birthday to youuu
Happy Birthday , Dear Shorpy.com , a great website
Happy Birthday,
 toooo
 youuuu
Joe 
P.S Hats off to you 
InfoWho exactly runs this site, and who else is involved?  Why were you going to call it "mike.com"? Who is Mike?
[That's what I'd like to know. - Dave]
GOOD JOBI love looking at you site of living history.  I also love finding subjects to colorize and try to bring to life.  The most fun I've ever had on the computer!!
(ShorpyBlog, Lewis Hine)

Tifton: 1909
... work regularly. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. Tifton: 1909 This is Joe Manning of the Lewis Hine Project. This ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 12/10/2007 - 3:20pm -

January 1909. Two of the "helpers" in the Tifton Cotton Mill at Tifton, Georgia. They work regularly. View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
Tifton: 1909This is Joe Manning of the Lewis Hine Project. This is one of my favorite Hine photos. I found another photo of the girl on the right, one in which she is standing in front of her house, with eight siblings and her widowed mother. The girl is wearing the same dress, and the photo was probably taken the same day. The mother is identified by Hine as Mrs. A.J. Young, and the girl is identified as Eddie(?). I got the Tifton newspaper to publish the photo above, but no one recognized either child. I found what appears to be the widowed mother in the 1920 Tifton census, but that hasn't helped very much. They are not in the 1910 census. You can see the other photo and more about this, as well as another photo of an unidentified girl I am researching at: http://www.morningsonmaplestreet.com/mysteryphotos1.html
Maybe someone out there can help identify these wonderful girls.
Love them!I adore these two. They have such a vibrance and spirit in their eyes. I can only hope they went on to have wonderful lives and never lost that sparkle.
Tifton 1909: Girl identified!This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. The beautiful girl on the right was Eddie Lou Young. She also appeared in another Hine photo in which she is pictured with eight siblings and her mother, identified by Hine as Mrs. A.J. Young. After more than four years of research...giving up, starting again, giving up, etc...I received the following email about 1:00 pm on January 24, 2011, almost exactly 102 years since the date of the photos (actually taken January 22). "The family of Mrs. A.J. Young of Tifton, Ga. is a picture of my grandmother and great-grandmother's family. The girl with the dark hair on the right side of the picture of the two girls was Eddy (Eddie) Lou Young. My mother knows more information about the family. I can give you her phone number." Several hours later, I talked to both the writer of the email, and her mother, got a few more facts, and spent the rest of the day searching census and death records on the Internet. I have found much more information, including the obituary for Catherine Young (Mrs. A.J. Young). I’ll notify Shorpy when the story is completed. 
Tifton: 1909This is Joe Manning again. I have completed my story about the girl on the right, and the rest of her family.
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/12/29/catherine-young-family/
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine)

The Girl: 1911
... unspecified but possibly Mississippi. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Haunting That stare will stay with me for a ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 05/20/2009 - 12:45am -

1911. "The girl works all day in a cannery." Location unspecified but possibly Mississippi. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
HauntingThat stare will stay with me for a long long time.
I knew I'd seen that look before!Dave, I've spent half the day trying to remember why this picture looked so familiar; I'd decided that it must be because you posted a picture of a young boy with the same freckles and look (presumably, her brother) about a year or so back.
And now I know... 
Still photographyNo, this is not a hard stare, this is a difficult holding still for the picture.  We forget how long people had to stand still in the old pictures.  This girl may have had to hold mannequin still up to ten minutes depending on equipment and conditions.  In the really old ones like civil war it could be twenty minutes.  that's why people didn't smile, it was just too hard to hold an expression that long.  Even if a flash pan were used it would still take 30-90sec of posing, which by today's instant standards is still a long time to hold your pose.
[You're thinking maybe of the early years (1840s-1850s) of photography, when daguerreotype exposures could last a few minutes. The exposure time for emulsions in the Civil War era would be a few seconds at most for outdoor shooting. Lewis Hine's circa 1910 outdoor exposures would have been made in a fraction of a second. - Dave]
Afghanistan USAAlmost everyone remembers the National Geographic girl from Afghanistan cover years ago. This image ranks with it in emotion.
SpottedI had freckles like that as a child. They only come out when you get lots of sunshine. She didn't spend all of her summers indoors despite the caption. I'm not suggesting she didn't have a hard life, just reading her freckles. 
No need to read the caption...This is instantly recognisable as a Hine photo, the look on the kid's face is practically his trademark.
Drawn InThis is the face that initially drew me into Shorpy.com, as it is the icon/link from the fabulous Plan59 site. I have to admit I have searched long and hard to see the full photo, and now that I have, it hits me like a 9-pound sledge.  This child, who was probably treated as an expendable, faceless entity in her life of labor, could not have dreamed what impact she would have almost 100 years after she "had her picture made". Thanks for posting it.
[This photo has been on the site for almost exactly two years (originally posted May 21, 2007). Every now and then we like to move the exceptional images out front for their moment in the sun. - Dave]
Roy Batty's Grandmother?She's seen things we would not believe.
HardshipWhen you didn't know anything else or any other life, it wasn't hardship. It was life. You worked hard -- whether it was at your family's farm or a factory. You played when you could and you found joys in little things.
Reading emotion and meaning into anyone's stare from Shorpy is a tricky thing. Some of us would find it a bit offensive to read despair and hopelessness into our stare just because we worked hard and happened to wonder who in the world was taking our picture.
WowI just can't believe the despair and hopelessness captured in this 98-year old photograph. Our self-centered youth of today have no idea what true hardship is. Thanks for giving us a perspective and a glance back at our past. No wonder we have the greatest nation on earth - our forebears were hardy folks. 
Spooky BeautifulI feel like her eyes can see straight through to my soul. Still, she looks like a sweetie and I want to give her a hug and brush her hair from her forehead.
The Eyes Have ItI don't know where to start. Her gaze goes right through
you. It's hard to believe someone so young can have a face that says so much about hardship. We see many of these faces on Shorpy.
Boring into your soul.Talk about a 1000 yard stare!
BackgroundThe lifeless grungy background of this just makes it all the more haunting. Most of Hine's photographs show working conditions or some kind of melancholy scenic background, but this makes it feel like she's alone in the whole world. Powerful photo.
Tidings from Christmas PastAnd from the foldings of its robe, the spirit brought two children.
They were a boy and girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish ... Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing.
"Spirit! are they yours?" Scrooge could say no more.
"They are Man's, and they cling to me, fleeing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, for on their brow I see written "Doom."
"Have they no refuge or resource?" cried Scrooge.
"Are there no prisons?" said the Spirit, turning on him
for the last time with his own words. "Are there no workhouses?"
The bell struck twelve.
FrecklesToo bad we didn't have color photos from back then.
With all those freckles she probably had pretty red hair.
It's just a lookYou can see the same sort of looks on any kid. Take a look at her for instance. It's not all hardship and despair that we see in these old photos.
LikewiseThe stare is freaking me out, too.
Regarding the stareI'm not saying the girl in the photo didn't have a hard life because she probably did. However, I work in a middle school and I see that piercing, serious stare in current photos every day, even when the occasion is a happy and proud one. I don't know what the reason was for this young lady's dark stare, but our kids tell me it's just "not cool" to smile in a posed photograph. No reason was given as to why is that so. Just the other day they were photographed by a local newspaper because they won a state tournament and the right to go to the national competition. Their picture showed them as if they were about to attend a funeral. Go figure.....
I get this look every dayMy 5-year-old daughter has a stare like this.  When she was younger, she'd stare at the people behind us in the checkout line and freak out the other shoppers.
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Drift Mouth: 1908
... he said: 'This year hain't no fun!'" Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Next to Godliness The photograph must have ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 11/12/2022 - 4:36pm -

October 1908. "Drift Mouth, Sand Lick Mine, near Grafton, West Virginia. Bank boss in center, driver on his right, trapper boy outside. Alfred, about 14 years old. He trapped several years during vacation, said he is going to school this year. Asked if it were because school is more fun, he said: 'This year hain't no fun!'" Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Next to GodlinessThe photograph must have been taken at the beginning of their shift. They look too clean.
Sand LickHow grim must a place be to be called Sand Lick?
Good TimberingSand Lick is located in Taylor County off the old B&O main line between Grafton and Clarksburg. ('Lick' being an Appalachian term for small stream.)  The mine was located one mile north of Simpson.  In 1913 it was reported to employ 150 people. If I ever manage to get caught up on my Washington D.C. Google-map mashup of Shorpy photos (link), I have a mind to do a similar thing for WV.




TAYLOR COUNTY
GRAFTON COAL AND COKE COMPANY.


No. 145. Sand Lick Mine, Pittsburg Seam, Drift.
This mine is located thirteen and one half miles east of Clarksburg on the B. & O. R. R. This mine is opened up on the double entry system. Ventilation is natural, and very sluggish throughout the mine. No explosive gas has ever been discovered in the mine. The top is fairly good throughout the mine and timbering is well looked after. This is a pick mine and the coal is hauled by mules and lowered by gravity plane to the tipple. There are several outlets and inlets to this mine which makes things very favorable for natural ventilation, but I have insisted that a furnace be constructed, there being no power, no other system of ventilation could be considered. The oil used by the miners meets with the requirements of the law, but on occasion of my last visit found that the rules were not posted as per requirements, and several other minor violations of the law, which you will notice by referring to my monthly report. With a full force of men, and with the present equipment this mine is capable of producing 500 tons daily.
J. W. FAHEY, Supt.; JOHN McGRAW, Mine Foreman.

Annual Report, 1908
West Virginia Mines Dept.

History RepeatsYoung Alfred, 1908: "This year hain't no fun!"
Me, 2008: "This year hain't no fun!"
This YearOr did he say "This here hain't no fun."
(The Gallery, Horses, Lewis Hine, Mining)

Dinner Time: 1909
... Georgia." Last glimpsed here . Joe Manning of the Lewis Hine Project, who has spent five years unraveling the Young family's history, ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 10/15/2011 - 5:02am -

January 22, 1909. "Dinner time. Family of Mrs. A.J. Young, Tifton, Georgia." Last glimpsed here. Joe Manning of the Lewis Hine Project, who has spent five years unraveling the Young family's history, tells their story here in fascinating detail. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Shorpy and Joe ManningFrom when I first found Shorpy, the Hine photos brought back my childhood interest in the child labor protection laws but the Joe Manning project really brings a personal heart wrenching story to the whole movement.  Thanks to Joe Manning's research and web site and Shorpy (Dave et al) for bringing this important story to all of us so it is not forgotten.
On the edge of her seatAt first glance I thought that there was a big spider web under the girl's chair but, after looking at the picture again, it appears that the caned bottom of the chair has disintegrated. She is sitting on the frame.
This is why I visit ShorpyThis is why I visit Shorpy every day.  It's a time machine complete with great photographic art and sometimes you come across true gems with very touching stories.  Great work as always Dave.
Joe Manning's workFolks, do yourself a favor and take the time to read history of the Young family.
I was riveted to my monitor the whole time.
Great work Joe!  (You too Dave)
Pride and CourageI just finished reading Joe Manning's detailed and moving story of this star-crossed family.  My heart aches and I have a tear in my eye, but somewhere inside I am also uplifted by the pride and courage that allows individuals to overcome adversity and hurdles and rise to what is best in the human spirit.
Thank you Joe, thank you Dave, and thank you Mr. Hine for lifting that shutter 102 years ago on a wonderful chapter of American life. 
Layers upon layersA magnificent example of "layering," to add the third dimension to a flat piece of film -- or a glass plate, as the case may be.
Not ANOTHER One!Photos like this are the reason I found Shorpy in the first place.  I happened across the Lewis Hine Project and got totally engrossed in a subject previously unknown to me.  It has made me much more appreciative of my own personal circumstances and the environment in which I was raised.  And I have a much greater respect and admiration for those not so fortunate.  Thanks Dave!
Young familyI also read the fascinating history of the Young's laid out by Joe Manning. What an effort Joe put into this.
Thank you Joe and Dave.
And they shall live foreverFaded photographs, memories, oral histories, this was a great story.
I tell my children that their memories of their grandfather, my father, is what makes a person immortal.
I value this story of the Young family and I have shared with my friends.  They shall live forever.
This is why I visit Shorpy III'm humbled after reading this. Thank you, Joe, and thank you, Dave. 
All this from one photoI am amazed at the dedication of Joe Manning in the story that the one photo started.  Amazing!
GraceI'll bet they bowed their heads and gave thanks before they ate.
Job Very Well DoneAs an amateur genealogist of 23 years, I can only say congratulations on a job very well done!!! You are an excellent researcher.
I had waited to see your completion of this story after seeing the Young family photo on Shorpy back a few weeks ago. I had tears in my eyes while reading the story of this family.  You have given the Young family a great gift, that of knowing their history.
When we think and write about those people who have already passed away, they do indeed come alive. By the time you finished your research, I am sure that you felt as though you knew these people.
It's hard to explain to others why researchers feel compelled to see their search through to completion.
I guess it's the mark of an historian but also of a person with a love for family.
Beautiful and heartbreaking.She looks so much like my own daughter, I am stunned how her expression can still touch one's heart, the span of a century dissolves in an instant.
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Jeff Miller: 1913
... sent there." View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. At first I didn't understand At first I didn't understand ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/13/2013 - 4:11pm -

October 1913. Houston, Texas. "Jeff Miller. A young delivery boy for Magnolia Pharmacy. This is especially bad for him as he has recently returned from the Seabrook Reform School where he had spent a year. He would not tell me why he was sent there." View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
At first I didn't understandAt first I didn't understand "especially bad for him" and then I realized, he was having to be out in public and see everyone who knew he'd been sent to reform school. I hope he got his life turned around. He and that bike are both too thin.
[Hine's point is that it's especially bad for a kid like this to be hanging out on the streets instead of getting an education. - Dave]
95 years later...http://www.magnoliapharmacy.com/
Jeff MillerAlso, it appears from previous photos that these boys made regular deliveries to parts of town young people should have had no business going to. Especially bad for a young man who has already been in trouble.
Jeff MillerThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I wasn't sure I'd find anything, given such a common name, but I did some research for about an hour today, and I am almost certain I've found Jeff. His name was James Jefferson Miller. He was born in 1899, and died in 1980, in Houston. He became a fireman. He was married and had children. I have requested his obituary from the Houston Public Library, and as soon as I get it, I'll be able to track down his survivors to see if I have the right guy. I'll let you know what happens.
Jeff Miller: 1913This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I have posted my story about this boy. I interviewed his granddaughter. Jeff was quite a colorful character, and had an interesting, if difficult childhood. You can see his story, along with several photos of him with his wife and family, at:
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/jeff-miller-page-one/
(The Gallery, Bicycles, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Night Lights: 1905
... You have a new fan for life!! I was originally looking for Lewis Hine photos for a lecture ... and found more than I ever could have imagined! ... 
 
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New York circa 1905. "Night in Luna Park, Coney Island." A veritable wonderland of incandescent illumination. Detroit Publishing glass negative. View full size.
Thanks DaveI would crawl inside this photograph if I could.
The Luna Park CircusAs if the architecture wasn't enough, the cafe mezzanines overlook a "floating" circus ring supported on arched trusses over the central lagoon. In the Shorpy image, Ring No. 1 is set up for a trapeze act. Here's a tinted postcard of a performing horse act on the same elevated platform.

Ooh.I would have given anything to spend a night at the old Luna Park.
The blurred figuresbring this photo to life! I love this website!!!!
Ethereal glowI really like how the camera captured an aura around some of the lights.  Even today this would be considered a beautiful display of lights.  I can't imagine how magical it must have been to people who grew up without electricity in their homes and still may not have had it.
I think that people too easily forget about some things in the past, like the original Ferris Wheel, and Coney Island in its prime.  Modern day designers would do well to learn from these works of engineering art.
WOW.They didn't waste any time taking advantage of electricity, did they?  
FWIW, I found this site yesterday and it is the most glorious corner of the Internet I've yet found.  Just incredible. You have a new fan for life!! I was originally looking for Lewis Hine photos for a lecture ... and found more than I ever could have imagined!  Keep up the good work!
[Aw shucks. Thanks! - Dave]
Job security!Can you imagine having the job of changing the burned-out light bulbs there? I imagine it'd have to be done after dusk so you could see which ones were out. Wonder if they bulb arrays were rigged so they could be lowered to the ground for maintenance, or if the poor workers had to scale the heights!
GorgeousBut hardly a surprise it burned down.
What a Sight Even the most staunch Victorians were impressed with this  -- actually "awed" might be more appropriate. I've read a lot about Luna Park  but don't remember anything about  those elephants.
Glowing praiseOne of your best choices yet -- an amazing photo.
Oriental FantasiesThere's never been anything quite like the hallucinatory grandeur of the architectural mashups seen in amusement park and exposition buildings in this period. The primary quotations appear to come from Cairo minarets and Mughal Indian archways, but these have been all mixed up with motifs from Chinese pagodas and old Russian church spires, Venetian balustrades and Italian baroque shields on the balconies. Then there are the what-the-heck details like the phoenix-head fern planters erupting from the bases of the flagpoles all around the upper deck. What shall we call it all -- Electro-Moresco-Sino-Baroco? 
Lights - actionI have seen a number of photos of Luna Park, and they are all astonishing. It must have been a fabulous place!
Hey, Dad!Can I borrow the time machine tonight?  I want to head on over to Coney with the gang.  What an unbelievable shot.  You've done it again, Dave.  Sadly, about all that is left of the old Coney Island is the Cyclone and Nathan's.
Disney's inspiration?The attention to detail is amazing. I have (happily) wasted a half an hour on this picture and still find new details!
AC/DCWhat makes this photo truly remarkable is the fact that even in 1905 there still wasn't an electrical standard. Was the power Edison's DC or was it Tesla's AC? I'm betting on AC. 
My grandfather, born in 1875, would regale us with stories of Coney Island. He would weave these almost impossible sounding stories about the grandeur of the place. Now you have to remember, the Coney Island of the 1950s and the 60s and then into the very depressing 70s was a very far cry from his experience, so it was almost as if he was telling fairy tales. 
It really must have been something else back then for the blue-collar worker. Working six days a week, up to 14 hours a day and taking your only day off to go to Coney Island. We have gained so much, we have lost so much.
Few places I'd rather bethan Luna Park and Coney Island in 1905.    What an interesting, fascinating and exciting place it must have been.
HauntedI watched Ric Burns' documentary about Coney Island several years ago and it was so haunting and eerie that I can't look at this photo without getting chills.  The 1903 footage of a Coney Island elephant being electrocuted for the "crime" of attacking a handler who threw a lit cigarette in her mouth still haunts me. 
Time machine pleaseIf I had a time machine, I'd take it back, throw a huge blanket over this place and tell them that they couldn't touch it for another 100 years, when they could appreciate the grandeur of all that is here.  Those architectural details!  Today's buildings are just squares and rectangles.  No pomp!  No curlicues!  No flourishes!  
How amazing it must have been to see all this electricity in one place.  All that light.  Must have been like they imagined the future would be.
Where do you think we live, Luna Park?!While growing up on the Lower East Side of NYC in the 60's and 70's my grandparents and parents were always admonishing us kids to "turn off the lights when you leave the room!"  If they ever had to turn the lights off after we carelessly left them on they would always say, "Where do you think we live, Luna Park?!"  Or, my father's favorite, "the place is lit up like Luna Park!"
Now I see what they meant!
Fascinating photo.  Thank you.
Luna ParkMaxim Gorky's remarks about Luna Park fit this photo perfectly:
With the advent of night a fantastic city all of fire suddenly rises from the ocean into the sky. Thousands of ruddy sparks glimmer in the darkness, limning in fine, sensitive outline on the black background of the sky shapely towers of miraculous castles, palaces, and temples. Golden gossamer threads tremble in the air. They intertwine in transparent flaming patterns, which flutter and melt away, in love with their own beauty mirrored in the waters. Fabulous beyond conceiving, ineffably beautiful, is this fiery scintillation.
NicopachydermI must correct Mattie below.  The elephant was certainly electrocuted at Luna Park, but not because a handler threw a lit cigarette into her mouth and she killed him.  She was killed because she had killed three men in as many years.  While it was true that she was abused by patrons and had in fact been fed a lit cigarette by someone, that incident was some time before and her handler was neither whom she killed nor who fed her the lit cigarette.
Luna in filmI was just flipping through the channels and Turner Classic Movies is showing a silent film called "The Crowd" that features a montage of the lead characters enjoying the sights of Luna at night.
The shots were just as spectacular as the photos of Luna park here at Shorpy.
(The Gallery, Coney Island, DPC)

Tipple Boy: 1908
... Otha Porter Martin, born July 3, 1897." Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Shorpy II He resembles our Shorpy...there is ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 06/09/2018 - 3:45pm -

        UPDATE: The historian Joe Manning has more on the life of Otha Porter Martin here.
October 1908. "Tipple boy at the Turkey Knob coal mine in Macdonald, West Virginia." Says the LOC: "Patron identifies this as her grandfather, Otha Porter Martin, born July 3, 1897." Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Shorpy  IIHe resembles our Shorpy...there is a genetic sameness to a lot of these boys in Appalachia from this era...my father said in WW II it was easy to pick out guys from central Appalachia...they all looked very much the same, in a time when people were not as mobile as now.
Tipple DefinitionWhat is a Tipple boy? I tried looking it up on line, but all definitions of tipple I could find had to do with alcohol.
[It's a boy who works in the tipple. - Dave]
Work UniformClose-fitting clothing was very important for a job like that.
From the photos, they must also have worn goggles at work.
[No goggles. - Dave]
What's on his head?What is on his head?
[A miner's headlamp (examples below). More information here. - Dave]

TippleTipple refers to the superstructure above ground that housed the draw works (hoist engine, cable drum, gear head etc) and the conveyor that took the ore away when the ore cart was tipped when it reached the surface.
Tipple BoyI'm not sure what you mean by genetic sameness.  Inter-breeding?  Let's break out the 'ole genetic charts from WWII Germany and compare notes.  I believe all the Jews during that time were also subjects of genetic sameness.  Re: the mobility theory.  Why do the indigenous Peruvians resemble the Indians on the islands of San Blas?  I would think mobility would be a bigger issue for these two groups but they must be inter-breeding because they have the same features.  I think the people from NYC are inter-bred because they sound alike.  What a silly conclusion.  The miners of Central Appalachia came from many ethnic backgrounds during this time.
[It's a typo. He meant "generic," not genetic. - Dave]
Miners lampThe lamp is a carbide lamp. One used solid carbide in the lamp body and added water to it and lit the carbide gas that it produced.
SadThis picture makes me incredibly sad!  I want to give him a big hug.  He looks old beyond his time.  He reminds me of Shorpy! These boys reslly never had a childhood. What a waste! Hopefully they grew strong and had a happier life later~
Otha Porter MartinThis is another photograph I recognized from my time spent on the LOC website. Another visitor identifies him as her grandfather Otha Porter Martin, born July 3, 1897. So nice when you can put a name to a face!
[Thanks! I've added that to the caption. - Dave]
Rock StarI recognize this from a wildly different source.  Celtic rock fans will know this picture as the cover of the Seven Nations album "The Factory."
Open lights in a coal mine?Yuck! 
And considering that safety mine lamps have been invented almost 100 years before the time of that photo, even a couple of competing designs within a few years, making those people work with crap like that was not just callous, but criminal. 
By the way, electric isn't all that popular in coal mines if it's not batteries. An ex colleague of mine who had been a mechanic in a mine, told me that stationary lights there were run on pressurized air. Air turns turbine, turbine turns generator, generator runs light. All in a noisy, compact, gasproof, sparkproof package. Ventilation free of charge. 
Bankers & MinersThe Tipple Boy and the additional images supplied in the comments took me back 30 years when I was a teenager working as a teller in a northern Indiana bank.  The first time I saw a government check from the Black Lung Disability Trust Fund, it was an eye-opener.  I had previously assigned black lung disease to a bygone era, and furthermore didn't feel a geographic or economic connection to the working conditions in the mining industry.  It was one of those moments for me, as a naive kid, when I started thinking about the big picture.
To think Shorpy could have beenTippleBoy.com
First photo I thought ofUntil I found Shorpy, the first photo I thought of when I heard a reference to child labor laws was this one. I'm glad to know that this boy at least lived long enough to have a family. 
So many of those boys photographed during this period were of an age where they might have served in WWI (like Shorpy did). I'd be willing to bet that those young men tended to complain much less about the drills, the facilities, the food, etc., than those who grew up more privileged. I'll bet even those who made it to the trenches in France complained less. Those boys in the coal mines even saw death, regularly. 
Story of Tipple BoyThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I just completed my story about this boy, Otha Porter Martin. I interviewed some of his grandchildren. It's quite a story. He lived to be 87 years old. You can find the story at this link:
https://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2018/01/22/otha-porter-martin-macdonal... 
(The Gallery, Bizarre, Kids, Lewis Hine, Mining)

Bibb Mill Girls: 1909
... adolescents in Bibb Mill No. 1." Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Brown Lung All the mill workers we've seen ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 02/13/2008 - 4:14am -

January 19, 1909. Macon, Georgia. "Some adolescents in Bibb Mill No. 1." Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Brown LungAll the mill workers we've seen have an alarming amount of lint and fiber on their clothes, in their hair--you know they must have inhaled so much.
I wonder what they would look like if they had the lives of the DC basketball girls, below.
Macon, GeorgiaI live in Macon and if I am not mistaken this building still remains today, and is a great antique store.  Boy don't we know how to raise those Southern belles here?
That GirlIs it my imagination or does the angry looking one in the center look "not all there"?
Yep!She does have that "Full Metal Jacket" sort of look in her eye, doesn't she?
Angry girlThey all look tired and unhappy. It would be interesting to know what was happening right before the picture was taken.
Why tired and unhappy?I would surmise it was long long hours that would not even be allowed for adults, let alone children, in this day.
Tired and unhappyTired and unhappy is easy enough to understand given the photo was likely taken to document unpleasant work conditions, but the girl in the middle not only looks 'not all there', but as if she were about ready to punch Hine and her friend wants to calm her down or hold her back with that hand on the shoulder.  Wonder if she was a bit 'odd' and prone to fits of temper, or just PMSing and didn't want her photo taken after a long, sweaty day's work.
Bibb Mill GirlsWow, the turn of the century child worker photos always get me, but this one in particular breaks my heart. They look so weary, so old before their time. I hope they found some rest and happiness later on in life.
Bibb MillI thought the Bibb mill was in Columbus, Ga. Was there more than one? The bits extant in Columbus are lovely.
[Bibb Manufacturing, one of the largest employers in the South in the first half of the 20th century, got its start in Macon. Eventually it had over a dozen mills. - Dave]
PostureA big reason the girl in the middle looks "angry" or "not all there" is her posture: forward head and shoulders, maybe mild torticolis, one shoulder higher than the other. The kid probably had scoliosis and or congenital torticolis, neither condition which would have been helped by leaning over mill machinery all day.
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Oysterboy: 1909
... is here six months a year." Glass negative and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. His Left Foot I wonder what happened to his ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/03/2012 - 3:04pm -

January 1909. Apalachicola, Florida. "A young oyster fisher. Randsey Summerford says he starts out at 4 a.m. one day, is out all night in the little oyster boat and back next day some time. Gets a share of the proceeds. Said he was 16 years old and been at it four years. Lives in Georgia and is here six months a year." Glass negative and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
His Left FootI wonder what happened to his other shoe.

Oyster BoyJoe Manning, from the Lewis Hine Project. This young man died in 1971. I have requested his obit, and I have the address of one of his relatives. I'll let you know what happens.
Randsey Summerford...seems to be listed in the 1910 U.S. Census as Lounzo Summerford / Semmerfort, home Apalachicola, Franklin, Florida, occupation oysterman, age 18 born about 1892 in Georgia, father born in Louisiana but not listed, mother Margaret, 56, born in Georgia, one sister, Gena, same age and birthplace.  
Photoshop footWhy doesn't his left foot cast a shadow like his right?
[It does. - Dave]

Smells FishyWhy is this kid the only white person in the frame? In this part of the country, (where I currently live) oystering was usually a family enterprise and it is very odd that a Negro crew would have a white employee (although, not vice-versa). I hope we find out more of backstory because I suspect, the census not withstanding, that Hines [sic] was either mislead [sic] or artfully arranged these people to fit his crusade against child labor.
[Hine's caption notation from a different oystering photo: "Mostly negro workers. The boss said, 'We keep only enough whites so we can control the negroes and keep them a-going!' " Below: Another mostly black Apalachicola oyster crew from January 1909. - Dave]

Oyster TongsOne thing I can tell you about oyster tonging is it takes a real man to do it all day.  When I lived on the Chesapeake Bay in the 60's and 70's I had the opportunity to try my hand at using oyster tongs to harvest oysters....it ain't easy!!!  The heavy tongs hinge about where his right hand is and when dropped straight down to the bottom the jaws open about one foot for a spread at the surface of about four feet.  After closing the jaws to scrape oysters from the bed the rig is hauled back up and opened to release the oysters on deck.  For pussies like you and I it is hard just to do it a few times much less all day.  Oystermen have fantastic arm and chest muscles and one thing for sure, don't ever get in a brawl with them...they are as tough as they come.  When I went out with friends who were from oystering families they had quite a good-natured laugh at my pathetic attempts to oyster, though I worked out and was fairly active....after a few trips to the bottom and back I was pooped.  So think about that when you look at these guys in the picture who had arguably one of the toughest jobs ever.  "Oyster Boy" indeed!
OysterboyThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. You can see my story of this boy at this link:
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2015/01/18/ramsey-summerford/ 
Tough OystermenTo further Anonymous Tipster's point from 2008, the young men who worked the oyster boats in Apalachicola, Florida, were indeed tough. I lived in that wonderful town for about five years in the mid-1960s and Chapman High's football team was consistently much better than others in their class. Considering how small that school was, it was remarkable.
I always chalked that up to the work many of those young men did on oyster boats. Their upper-body strength was uncanny.
--Jim
(The Gallery, Boats & Bridges, Florida, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Rosina Goyette: 1911
... to three weeks. Her partner said 'a few weeks.' " Photo by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Rosina Goyette: 1911 This is Joe Manning, of ... 
 
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September 1911. Winchendon, Mass. "Rosina Goyette, Maple Street. Apparently 12 but says she is 14; has steady job doffing and spinning in Spring Village Mill. Said at first she had been working six months, later she changed it to three weeks. Her partner said 'a few weeks.' " Photo by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Rosina Goyette: 1911This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. Rosina lived into her 90s. I recently interviewed her granddaughter. Hine took 40 photos in Winchendon in September of 1911. I have been researching all of them for the past six months. You can see a lot of what I have found on my website at www.morningsonmaplestreet.com/winchendon.html  
Sad portraitShe looks like she is from the dead zone, not a pleasant childhood.
SPLASH!Toto, I don't think were in Kansas anymore. Toto?...Toto???
What does "partner" mean?What does "partner" mean?  Is this girl married at her young age?
[It's a girl who works with her at the mill. - Dave]
It's Wednesday...... of the Addams Family. Her full name was Wednesday Friday Addams.
Rosina Goyette: 1911This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I interviewed the granddaughter and daughter-in-law of Rosina. They live near me and visited my house. They had some terrific photos of her. Rosina lived to be 98 years old and was quite a colorful lady. You can see the whole story on my website.
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/rosina-goyette-page-one/
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Donnie Cole: 1910
... posted in the mill." Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Young Granddad My grandfather was born in ... the song “Donnie Cole.” by Joe Manning, ©2009 Lewis Hine Project Donnie Cole: Baby Doffer This is Joe Manning of the ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 07/24/2012 - 7:14pm -

November 1910. Birmingham, Alabama. "Donnie Cole. 'Our baby doffer,' they called him. This is one of the machines he has been working at for some months at the Avondale Mills. Said, after hesitation, 'I'm 12,' and another small boy added, 'He can't work unless he's twelve.' Child labor regulations conspicuously posted in the mill." Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Young GranddadMy grandfather was born in 1910. When he was 12 his dad made him get a job and then quit working, so my grandfather had to support his family. When I was little and would complain about not getting a toy or something equally unimportant he would bristle and scold me for not appreciating what I had. He died before I was old enough to realize what he was talking about. Now I look back on him with my adult eyes, and wish I could tell him I now understand. People that grew up like this grew up hard.
ImpactPretty powerful photo. Pretty sad.
This poor lad has evidently lost his left arm and right hand to this machine. Apparently this was not an uncommon fate of doffers.
[Donnie's arms and extremities are all intact. Loss of a limb in the mills would definitely have been an uncommon fate.  - Dave]
Strong resemblanceThis little fella bears a strong resemblance to my four year old son. How lucky we are, indeed. I'm going to give him twelve extra hugs today - and give one in my heart to little Donnie Cole by proxy. Bless his heart. 
Donnie Cole: 1910Donnie Cole
My name is Donnie Cole.
I work here every day.
I think I'm 12 years old,
That's what my my momma say.
Sometimes I’m a doffer,
Sometimes I sweep the floor.
I used to go to school,
But I don’t do that more.
From the song “Donnie Cole.”
by Joe Manning, ©2009
Lewis Hine Project 
Donnie Cole: Baby DofferThis is Joe Manning of the Lewis Hine Project. I was able to determine that this boy was named Lonnie, not Donnie. With that information, I tracked down his obit, but he left no children. But he did leave a sister, and I found her obit, which led me to Dorothy, one of her daughters. I sent the picture to her and called her today. She was so thrilled to get the picture of her Uncle Lonnie that she invited a bunch of her family members over to see it. I will be interviewing her soon. She told me that little Lonnie was short, and as an adult, looked pretty much like he did in the picture. She said he was always wearing a railroad hat.  
Donnie Cole, Baby Doffer: 1910This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I interviewed a niece of Lonnie (not Donnie) Cole. She called him Uncle Lon, or just Lon. She spoke very highly of him. You can see my story of Lonnie at:
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/12/29/lonnie-cole/
(The Gallery, Birmingham, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Cribs: 1913
... boy making delivery to 'crib' in Red Light." Photo by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Call Me Madam Love her mobcap -- soooo sexy. ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 04/08/2010 - 11:05pm -

October 1913. San Antonio, Texas. "Sixteen-year-old messenger boy making delivery to 'crib' in Red Light." Photo by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Call Me MadamLove her mobcap -- soooo sexy.
The package in his pantsIs tucked into the waistband. Most of these messengers who frequented the "Red Light" were making deliveries from pharmacies to the working girls -- probably patent medicines containing cocaine or heroin, along with prophylactics. This boy is shown in another Hine photo entering a "crib."
Good for herYou might have expected here, especially from Lewis Hine, a man for whom the camera was usually a weapon in a moral crusade, that the woman would be at least a little ashamed of being photographed like this: in flagrante, as it were. But look at her! She couldn't care less. That's such a wonderfully bold, amused, shameless look. 
How do you knowHow do you know what this photo is about? I looks like anywhere 1900 USA.
[How do we know what any of these photos are about? Because the photographers captioned them. - Dave]
HineophileI am a big fan of Lewis Hine and his documentary photographs. I really enjoy the snapshot quality he adds to the composition of his images. And the print quality is always great. He always manages to capture such a great moment on the faces of his subjects. Whether he manipulated and directed them or not, I don't think it matters. They still come across as natural and that is the important part. 
(The Gallery, Lewis Hine)

Sunset School: 1921
... Pocahontas County." View full size. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. I wonder if the bottles I wonder if the bottles contain preserved ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 09/11/2011 - 7:23pm -

October 7, 1921. "School in Session. Sunset School, Marey, West Virginia. Pocahontas County." View full size. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine.
I wonder if the bottlesI wonder if the bottles contain preserved frogs or similar for dissection?  It reminds me of an old one I had once, and would perhaps explain the variety of queasy and mischievous expressions.
That vial is a temptationA fantastic photo. The flowers on the teacher's desk are touching. I like the pail next to the water jug in the back. I do hope the teacher didn't swallow what was in that vial she's contemplating so earnestly.
Boys will be boysMy new favorite photo.  Everyone is posing stiffly in their Sunday go-to-meeting clothes except the rascal on the left.  But why are their eyes closed?
It's the waterDid someone dump arsenic in the well?  Most of these kids look like they came out of "Night of the Living Dead".
Avenging Angel?Great pic - some barefoot students, tatty shades, but a jar overflowing with fresh flowers! - is that a picture of an angel with a sword on the side wall? Also, any clue as to what the cylinders are that the teacher is using (appears to be a set in a special case)?
Wireless SchoolhoueNo sign anywhere of the schoolhouse having electricity.  Dark window shades are drawn also.  Yet there seems to have been a good source of light somewhere in this classroom.
Living DeadI'm with you on that one - it reminds me of "memorial photographs" from the Victorian era.
One Room SchoolhouseMy mom was taught in a similar class of various ages and said that the teacher took each age group while the others worked on something else.  I see the older looking kids in the back on the right are reading, while she appears to be explaining something to this somewhat younger group while showing them something in a bottle, taken from a kit of similar items.  Are they paints?  Can you see what is in her hand?  Oh, if only we had a real time machine, huh?   There must have been a well outside as seen by the bucket inverted next to the crockery water vessel.  Either one of the big boys or the teacher would have to bring in water each day.  Be glad we have shoes for our kids in October, since it isn't really summer.  A beautiful and thoughtful photo of the "roaring twenties" when NOT all of America was prospering.  West Virginia's employed people at the time were probably coal miners and not everybody was dancing and partying.
Poverty?When this picture was taken my mother was 8 yrs old and sitting in a school house no doubt just like this within 40 miles of where this picture was taken(Elmira, WV).  From the stories of my Mom and Dad we can not imagine the poverty. Most kids got one pair of shoes a year and had to make them last (and hand them down). The teacher is probably 18 or 19 at most. There would have been an outhouse and probably an outside pump. If lucky kids might have gone to 8th grade but most (especially boys) stopped at 4 to 6th grade. Many of these kids grew up to move north to Ohio and Michigan. They used to say WV schools taught the 3-R's = readin, 'rightin, and Rt 21 (the route to Akron and the Rubber factories). Others went to Detroit and built the cars to put the tires on. 
The poverty was great but most of them didn't realize it. I once asked my Dad what the Depression was like and he said none of them ever noticed it since they were always poor. They had no cash and traded milk and eggs for what ever they couldn't grow or hunt on their own. Dresses were sown from flour sacks. He said that he and Mom rented an 80 acre farm for $40/yr when they were first married and never managed to make the payment. But they raised three kids, 8 grandkids, owned their own homes and cars. These kids had no idea how far (literally and figuratively) most of them would go in the next 60-70 years.
WV (and especially this part of it) was very poor and very isolated. Most at this point had never seen a car much less ridden in one. No imagination of electric lights, telephones, air-conditioning, TV. Some might had heard a radio but probably didn't own one. Travel was by horse and wagon at best.
So don't look at the poverty --- look at this as the starting point of a great adventure. I can not imagine my life progressing as far and as differently as the lives of my parents and this generation.
My Great-Great Grandfather.......taught at the Milhoan Ridge School in Jackson County West Virginia. I have a great old picture of him with his hunting dogs. His name was William Tack Milhoan. Don't know why the Archivist would want to ruin the shot of the school by putting a title over it.
BTW, what is the Winged Victory figure in the poster near the window wearing? 
WV schoolNo wonder these kids ended up in the mines,  with a dour looking teacher like that. what a depressing look at their lives. I hope some of these children rose above their poverty.
Questions: Do you think thatQuestions: Do you think that they knew that a photograph was being taken that day? The young, unmarried teacher is nicely dressed and has flowers on her desk, along with two bells and a pencil sharpener. A few of the students are dressed up too--love the little girl with the huge bow in her hair. However, it's October 7th and two kids are, of necessity, barefoot, The girl is crossing her feet almost in a hiding manner. Please tell me that they had outhouses and not just the overturned bucket in the back of the room. What do you suppose the teacher is holding in her hand?
No shoesI had heard people from that era saying they hadn't had shoes until they were 18. Kinda rough to see it on these kids.
Creepy, retouched eyes?What a great photo.  
That classroom must have been dark in that classroom when the flash powder ignited as it appears that most of the students blinked, only to have their eyes applied to their eyelids in post production.  This detail gives the photo an unsettling quality.
["Post-production"? You've been watching too many movies. The eyes look the way they do because the camera shutter is open longer than the duration of the flash. So you get open eyes superimposed with closed eyelids (when the flash makes everyone blink) in the same shot. - Dave]
Praying?Looks like it is prayer time or they are trying to visualize something. We could learn a lot by going back to some of these old ways... The new ones don't seem to be working too well...
Bare feetWest Virginia was very poor then so the bare foot kids probably had parents that couldn't afford shoes. They were just lucky to be able to even go to school.
Fancy BootsCheck out the boots on the child hidden by the flowers.  His dad must have been the town millionaire.
Quite the contrast with Shoeless Joe and Shoeless Jill to his immediate right.  By October 7, it was getting a wee bit chilly in that area.  Just about time to start lighting up the big stove just behind Mr. Fancy Boots.
Old photographyOh, that effect of seeing the eyes and the closed eyelids is so creepy.
Winged VictoryA reply to ne_time_now:
The poster appears to be an old war stamps poster probably from WWI.

Population figuresOn a hunch I looked up the population of the county in Vital Stats. 1920 was the peak for population in Pocahontas County, WV with around 15,000, up a thousand or so from 1910 and again for 1900.  Population declined to about half of that and was 9,000 in the 2000 census. 
We are viewing the county at the peak!  And I lived in WV in the mid, late 60s. 
Funny how migration and whatever external factors will have on population.  We always think more and more people are coming in and in this case, it is not.  In my home county in Kentucky, the population was in the 15,000 range in 1840 and it took until the 1950 or 60 census to get back to that level.  Now, we're overrun with people around here! 
AppalachiaLarry K's comments sum up all the other comments so well. I grew up in Appalachia -- southeastern Ohio -- and my 75-year-old parents still live there, three miles from Route 21. Though my five brothers and I were far from rich, we certainly had it better than our parents, who were both born in the middle of the Great Depression. Mom's parents also rented a farm and her father worked in a coal mine to support the family of twelve. Mom told us bedtime stories about her childhood -- "undies" made of flour sacks that were stamped with "Pillsbury's Best," etc. I could detect no bitterness in her voice, only fondness and perhaps a little remorse for the loss of "the good old days."
Better or Worse?Pocahontas County was actually booming in those days--far better off than it is today--with lumber being the main industry.  Granted, the people weren't very well off, but most were working and for the most part this area was typical of rural America at the time.  Shoeless kids weren't an uncommon sight anywhere back then when weather permitted.
Angel AngleNotice the picture on the back wall with the little girl. On one side the "good" angel urging her to do right while the "bad" or "dark" angel urges her to misbehave. I know I heard that lesson a few times in my youth.
I  love the comments on this one........probably as much, or more, than the actual photograph. My grandmother taught elementary school in the '20s in a farming town in California. Her stories remind me a lot of this photograph. The one thing she always emphasized was how much fun they had. Apparently, she and a couple of other teachers were known for their pranks. Thanks to everyone for their interesting and thoughtful comments!
Mystery deviceWhat is that next to the Water jug? A book stand? Someone's crutch? A music stand? 
Some Had No ShoesMy dad often told me he and his brothers had no shoes.  They had to walk on the railroad tracks, barefoot, to get to school.  They lived in a log cabin with no floors.  During the winter, their father dug a big hole in the ground and they slept in it to escape the cold wind blowing in through the cabin walls.  
Haves from Have-NotsIt's very easy to pick out the haves from the have-nots.
(The Gallery, Education, Schools, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Sea Urchin: 1909
... boats in the harbor during school hours." Photgraph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. Poor kid! He never knew the joys of being ... 
 
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October 1909. Boston, Massachusetts. "Truant hanging around boats in the harbor during school hours." Photgraph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
Poor kid!He never knew the joys of being strapped into a car seat and carted off to daycare.
Someone call the copsAnd pack this kid off to nursery school!
Is that a kidOr a hobbit?
Sure FootedJudging from those feet, the lad doesn't fall into the water much.
The Bad SeedHanging around boats and drinking, by the looks of it. 
"Truant"??That was a stretch, even for Lewis Hine. The man saw delinquency and vice everywhere he looked.
Who knewBob Dylan was that old?
(The Gallery, Boats & Bridges, Boston, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Nipper Joe: 1911
... 163 Pine St." View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. Nipper Joe This is Joe Manning, from the Lewis Hine Project. I saw ... 
 
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January 1911. Shaft #6, Pennsylvania Coal Co. mine at South Pittston. "At the close of the day. Waiting for the cage to go up. Small boy in front is Joe Pume, a Nipper, 163 Pine St." View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
Nipper JoeThis is Joe Manning, from the Lewis Hine Project. I saw this photo yesterday, and I've already talked to one of his daughters. She's never seen the photo, and I mailed it to her this morning. Joseph Puma had 12 children, and died at the age of 68 or 69. I will be interviewing the daughter in several weeks.  
Nipper Joe: 1911 This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I have completed my story of nipper Joseph Puma. He's the boy in the front row on the right in this photo. There are at least two other Lewis Hine photos of him, which you can see in my story. I have also posted his wedding photo. Joe's daughter, whom I interviewed, told me: “He was the most wonderful person you’d ever want to meet. He did everything for us. He worked very hard. We never had any money, but we never did without anything.” It's a nice story. See it at
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/joseph-puma-page-one/
(The Gallery, Lewis Hine, Mining)

Shorpy at Work: 1910
... as far as we can tell, the first of only four photographs Lewis Wickes Hine took of Shorpy on his visit to the Bessie Mine late in 1910. (The others ... 
 
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"A greaser in a Coal Mine. Location: Bessie Mine, Alabama." November 1910. View full size image or view Shorpy even bigger (cropped). This is, as far as we can tell, the first of only four photographs Lewis Wickes Hine took of Shorpy on his visit to the Bessie Mine late in 1910. (The others are here and here and here.) Almost 100 years after being taken, they retain a strange and startling immediacy even though their subject is almost certainly dead. Who were you, Shorpy Higginbotham, and whatever became of you?

What became of Shorpy? Here's a summary of what we know, based on research using census and death records, contributed by visitors to this site: Shorpy -- Henry Sharpe Higginbotham -- was born Nov. 23, 1896, in Jefferson County, Alabama, to Phelix Milton Higginbotham and the former Mary Jane Graham. He served in the armed forces during World War I. On Nov. 19, 1927, he married Flora Belle Quinton. On Jan. 25 of the following year he died in a mine accident at the age of 31, crushed by a rock, and was buried in Jefferson County. He became a father, posthumously, when his widow bore his child in the summer of 1928. The writer Joe Manning says he has spoken with Shorpy's son but that he didn't want to talk. You can read more about Joe's report on his Web site.

Shorpy?Well I hope so. I'd hate to have started a website based on a typo! In any case a big THANK YOU to the nice person who supplied the census data. That looks like Shorpy and his family to me.
More info about Henry aka ShorpyHome in 1910: 	Precinct 48, Jefferson, Alabama
Household Members:
Name 	Age
P M Higgenbotham 	45 (Should be F(elix)
Nancy J Higgenbotham 	43
Robert Higgenbotham 	23
Jock Higgenbotham 	20
Cervet Higgenbotham 	16
Sharpy Higgenbotham 	13
Harley Higgenbotham 	11
Ruthie Higgenbotham 	8
Paulie Higgenbotham 	5
Annie Lee Higgenbotham 	4
===================================================
1900: Graysville, Jefferson, Alabama
Gix M Higginbotham  	34 (This is really Felix)
Mary J Higginbotham 	30
Doffie J Higginbotham 	16
Robert B Higginbotham 	13
Jack J Higginbotham 	10
Susie Higginbotham 	9
Fardix D Higginbotham 	7
Henry S Higginbotham 	3

Popeye and Friends: 1911
... Massachusetts. Works in Eclipse Mills." Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size. love the photos, something love the photos, ... 
 
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August 1911. "Arthur Chalifoux (4th boy from left), 3 Rand St. North Adams, Massachusetts. Works in Eclipse Mills." Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. View full size.
love the photos, somethinglove the photos, something about the history
The little boy with bracesThe little boy with braces has arms that look like Shorpy's.
Such handsome lads.I could make up a story about each one of them.
Popeye and Friends: 1911This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I interviewed one of Arthur Chalifoux's grandsons today, and even saw a 15-minute video of Arthur being interviewed in 1983. He lived to be 92 and worked most of his life for a paper mill in Holyoke, Mass., after moving to that city in his teens, but he often returned to North Adams to visit his old "haunts." He talked to his grandson frequently about having to work as a child. No one in the family had ever seen a photo of Arthur as a boy until I sent it to the grandson. The photo was taken in front of what is now Linda's Cafe, on Union Street, which has a large picture window where the outside brick wall was. The Eclipse Mill mentioned in the photo is now a condominium for artists. See www.eclipsemill.com for more information. 
Popeye and Friends: 1911This is Joe Manning again. My full story about Arthur Chalifoux is now posted. I think it's very moving.
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/arthur-chalifoux-page-one/ 
Popeye and Friends: 1911This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. Popeye (boy with pipe and suspenders) was Albert Duquette. He became a professional boxer, known as Young Eddie Leonard. "Puggy" Duquette, as his North Adams friends called him, married in 1922, and died suddenly of a heart attack in 1935, at the age of 39. You can see the rest of my story about this colorful young man at
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/albert-duquette-page-one/
The boy standing between Popeye and Arthur Chalifoux is Joseph Crepeau. Hine took several photos of him. I tracked down his daughter. He was quite a character, and my search for his story took some amazing twists and turns. See the story at
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/joe-crepeau-page-one/
(The Gallery, Factories, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Shut This Door That Means You
... 1908. View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. One trapper's description of the job, which paid about $1.60 a day: ... 
 
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Vance, a trapper boy, 15 years old. Has trapped for several years in a West Virginia coal mine at 75 cents a day for 10 hours work. All he does is to open and shut this door: most of the time he sits here idle, waiting for the cars to come. On account of the intense darkness in the mine, the hieroglyphics on the door were not visible until plate was developed. September 1908. View full size. Photograph and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
One trapper's description of the job, which paid about $1.60 a day:
Trappers were responsible for opening and closing the underground ventilation doors. In those old mines, they had a system of doors between sections to direct the flow of air. Air was supposed to go up the main haulage and back to the fan. So a trapper sat all day by his door with an oil lamp on his cap. There was a "manhole" - a shelter hole in the wall by the track. The motorman would blink his light at me, and I'd throw the switch and open the door for him. Then, I'd jump into the manway until he was past, and run out and close the door. A trip would come along about every hour. Was I bored or lonely? Well, it was my job.
incredible photoThanks, photo it is incredible.
Tamara Razov.
SadSo lonely it must have been.
Lonely and dangerousHere's a short death notice published in 1912 in The Pointer in Riverdale, Illinois:  
"Herrin — Oliver Fraser, 20, a trapper boy in a mine, was killed when a runaway car struck the trap door and knocked him in front-of the car."
TrapperMy grandfather started out as a Trapper boy in 1890 at the age of eight in PA.  He was in the third grade and had to go to work because his father had been blacklisted for trying to start a union.  The family spent the winter of 1890 living in a half-tent as they had been evicted from company housing.  Finally quit the 'mines' in 1935.  
Vance van GoghAfter looking at this for about the zillionth time I see that trapper boy Vance is the artist here - he signed the door drawing with both his initials (V.P.) and his full name, Vance Palmer. Kind of sad to imagine him chalk-drawing all by himself by the light of his hat-candle.
Canary in a coal mineDon't scare the birds
Vance, trapper boyVance Swisher Palmer was born September 16, 1893. After working in the mine as a boy, he worked the rest of his life as a glass cutter for the Pittsburgh Plate Glass Company in Clarksburg, West Virginia. In the 1920s, he served as secretary of the West Virginia Farmer-Labor party. He died in Clarksburg on August 20, 1945. Surviving were his wife and four children. I interviewed his daughter and will publish excerpts at a later date on my Lewis Hine Project website. 
www.morningsonmaplestreet.com/lewishine.html
Vance, The Trapper Boy: 1908This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I have completed my story about Vance Palmer. I interviewed two of his children and obtained some family photos of Vance.
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/vance-palmer-page-one/
UnusualThe picture that the son thinks was Vance's high school graduation photo is in itself unusual. In 1911 graduating from high school was  an accomplishment  for a W.Va. coal miner. However, it does explain his election to the Clarksburg Trades and Labor Council as Secretary/Treasurer.
Thank you Joe Manning for another insightful look at the past.
(The Gallery, Kids, Lewis Hine, Mining)

Rhea Quintin: 1916
... other purpose." View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine. Rhea Quintin This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. ... 
 
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June 1916. Fall River, Mass. "Rhea Quintin, 14 years old. Drawing in on Webb frame. Been at it about three months. Requires great deal of mental application and accuracy and good oversight. Takes over a year to learn. Seemed very young in certificate office. Miss Smith thought she was a little schoolgirl coming for some other purpose." View full size. Photo and caption by Lewis Wickes Hine.
Rhea QuintinThis is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. According to the census and Massachusetts death records, Rhea Quintin was born on Sept 7, 1901, and died in Fall River, Mass, on Feb 15, 1998, at the age of 96. She never married. She worked at the former Boott Cotton Mill.
Old ageIt seems a lot of these mill girls lived well into their 90's...
re: Rhea QuintinWhile nearly every picture posted here speaks to me, some speak a little more eloquently or affectingly than others.
Happy Holidays and BTW, God bless Lewis Wickes Hine.
RheaSounds a lot less condemnatory than the usual Hine captions.  Almost admiring...
Health RisksThe health risks of breathing cotton and other dusts in textile mills in New England and the Carolinas are well publicized.
We still have to figure out why many kids worked in those mills until they were old adults and still lived to a ripe old age.
Sorta like the tobacco smoking controversy.
Webb Frame?What exactly is she doing here? Something with textiles, I assume, but what? 
Rhea Quintin: 1916This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I have posted my story about this young lady. Sad to say, it is all too brief, since she seems to have left no one who remembers much about her. It's a strange story that begs for more details.
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/rhea-quintin-page-one/
Re: Webb FrameWarps are the lengthwise threads in a fabric that run through the loom. In the photo, Rhea is using a narrow metal hook to draw the ends of white cotton warp threads through the little knotted eyes in the dark looped-string heddles (one warp in each heddle, all of them held in webb frames) that will pull selected sets of warps up and down during the weaving process. The webb frames in the loom rise and fall in a sequence to allow the over-and-under interlacing of the side-to-side weft threads with the warps. This loom appears to have only two webb frames of heddles, and is therefore being dressed to make "plainweave" cloth, the simplest set-up. Rhea must take each warp thread in order, and alternate between the first and second set of heddles as she goes. Since a wide loom-width of cloth (such as bed sheeting) can have tens of thousands of warps, the drawing-in of the warps during the loom set-up was a tedious and time-consuming job that had to be done perfectly to avoid money-wasting flaws in the woven cloth. 
I am related to Rhea QuintinHi, I am related to Rhea Quintin , She is my wife 2nd cousin 1X removed. I can be contact for anything conserning her , I would be happy to answer or get any new information about her or her family. And thanks to the person that post her picture, we didn t have any of her !!   Gaston Lepage
(The Gallery, Factories, Kids, Lewis Hine)

John Slebzak: 1909
... Island, Louisiana. View full size. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine. SSDI Results John Slebzak b. 17 Feb 1898 d. Sep 1971 ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/26/2011 - 3:22pm -

John Slebzak, working on the Bottomley farm near Baltimore with his family (Polish). They have worked here three years and one winter at Avery Island, Louisiana.  View full size. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine.
SSDI ResultsJohn Slebzak
b. 17 Feb 1898
d. Sep 1971 Halethorpe, Baltimore, MD
[Shorpy is impressed! Thanks, Emo. - Dave]
dot comI'm going to go register slebzak.com and give shorpy.com some competition! See you on the internets!
John Slebzak: 1909This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I just talked to one of John's sons. He didn't know about the photo. There are three Hine photos of the Slebzak family on the Library of Congress website. I will be interviewing the son in a couple of weeks.
John Slebzak: Berry Picker, 1909This is Joe Manning, of the Lewis Hine Project. I have completed my story on this little berry picker. See it at
http://morningsonmaplestreet.com/2014/11/26/john-slebzak-page-one/
(The Gallery, Baltimore, Kids, Lewis Hine)

Boys With Brooms: 1908
... Sweepers in a North Carolina cotton mill." Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine for the National Child Labor Committee. View full size. ... 
 
Posted by Dave - 08/15/2012 - 9:50am -

November 1908. "Some Sweepers in a North Carolina cotton mill." Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine for the National Child Labor Committee. View full size.
DistractionsLewis Hine must have had an assistant with him for all his group shots -- there are always a few people looking to the photographer's right (especially the women in groups). Having started out as an assistant "holding the light," I had to keep quiet so as not to attract someone's eyes!
[Or it might have been Hine himself. - Dave]

(The Gallery, Factories, Lewis Hine)
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