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VINTAGRAPH • WPA • WWII • THE NEW ZEALAND FOREST, c. 1950

Dandelions and Daisies: 1943

Dandelions and Daisies: 1943

A springtime carpet of dandelions and daisies in Vermont, June 1943. View full size. 4x5 Kodachrome transparency by John Collier. I see clover and daisies, but nothing that looks very dandeliony to me. Are the orange flowers dandelions?

 

Indian Paintbrush

I don't care what Wikipedia says, those flowers are everywhere here in northern Vermont and they vary from yellow to red and every shade between. They are known in these parts as "Indian Paintbrush." So there!

Pretty

Whatever they are it's a beautiful shot.

Hawkweed!

Look at how it grows with 2-5 flowers per stalk; that doesn't happen with marigolds, paintbrush, or mums. It's hawkweed.

-Grew up in Michigan

Different places, different names

In the New England area, those golden flowers are called Indian paint brush ( rightly or wrongly ); obviously they are not of the same genus and species as the red flower pictured above. That's the trouble with common names vs.
scientific names!

Not dandelions

The yellow/orange flowers in the picture have multiple buds/blossoms in a cluster. Dandelions have only one blossom per stalk, although there may me multiple stalks coming out of the same plant. The unopened buds look a lot like the buds in the hawkweed picture.

The small, spherical, white flowers are white clover.

I believe the orange flowers

I believe the orange flowers are mums.

the flowers

The flowers are made in heaven and sent to earth. Wherever they are they radiate warmth, grandeur, love and above all friendship among men, women, children !

Dandelions and Daisies: 1943

I think that the yellow flowers are hawkweed.

Keep those old Kodachromes comin'.
Love the old images.

Dave

both of those

I have both of those kinds of flowers at my house (they look identical), but I don't know what they are..

Indian Paintbrush

Perhaps the photo of the flower above you describe as "Indian Paintbrush" is correct but in these parts, the flowers in the original posted photo is definitely what we call "Indian Paintbrush", at least for folks near Lake Superior. It is possible different plants share such a common name. ---- I do know though, that the flower that my eyes see in the original photo is very familar to me and in my native Ojibwe language which I speak fluently, is called "Miskwanowe". The flower you refer to as shown above is one that I'm not familar with, but it is a dandy, eh, and I appreciate you sharing. Cheers.

[Wikipedia entry on Indian paintbrush, Castilleja linariaefolia, illustration below. - Dave]

Dandelions? Nope

Without seeing the leaves, my guess is yellow hawkweed; as it also has a number of shades ranging between brilliant yellow through that flame-orange colour. The daisies, on the other hand, are in fact chrysanthemums -chrysanthemum leucanthemum!
Really nice image, though.
Thanks for all the great work here, Dave.

Dandelion Debate

First a dang nice photo, but in these parts, UP of Michigan, we call those orange flowers which are native to the area and grow wild or sometimes even in one's backyard "Indian Paint Brush". They flower in mid-June to mid-July. Cheers.

[Below, a photo of Indian paintbrush. Not very similar. - Dave]

Definitely not dandelions.

Having spent a lot of summers in my youth weeding out dandelions from the lawn at a penny a piece I am intimate with the little buggers. They have single flower stalks and a very definitive large clumpy saw toothed leaved base all around that would show up in the picture as nothing can grow through it. Also color's wrong.
My vote is with the mums, although Dave's Orange Hawkweed find is intriguing. Too bad we can't find out how those flowers matured. Neat little mystery.

Orange Hawkweed?

[Image link. Wikipedia entry. - Dave]

Ahh, I just looked at the

Ahh, I just looked at the closeup again and noticed the dead flowers on those stems. If they were dandelions, the heads would be empty; the petals would've turned into puffballs and blown away. But instead we see darker, withered flowers still attached. These are categorically NOT dandelions -- it's impossible.

[The dried ones have a swelling at the base, like rose hips. - Dave]

Unidentified Flowering Objects

In the closeup they look a lot more like dandelions that aren't all the way open yet. But the color is still off, and the way the flowers come off from the stem in bunches is entirely wrong. Can we get a closeup of the leaves of these flowers? Dandelions have really striking leaves.

At this point I'm putting my money on marigolds. The color, shape, and pursed buds are all characteristic of Tagetes.

[Click on the pic below for a dazzling panorama of leaves and stems. - Dave]

The Orange Flowers

I believe the orange flowers are mums.

[A field of tiny wild chrysanthemums? In Vermont? - Dave]

Dandelions n Daisies

Here's a closeup to aid in the deliberations.

More Dandelions

A bunch of clover (those white flowers that aren't daisies) in the foreground, too.

I'm not sure those are dandelions -- if you were looking at a print you might think so, but at a big size like this there's something wrong. Dandelions would be about the color of the daisies' centers, and even more importantly, dandelion blooms aren't in clumps like that. The real tipoff is when you look at the ones closest to the camera, you can see the center and petals are distinct; the center's a shade or two lighter than the petals surrounding it. In dandelions you can't see the center, it's all petals, so there's no distinction at all. I think those are actually another type of daisy, with orange centers and brown-orange petals.

Unless the dandelion crop of 1943 was really weird in Vermont :)

dandelions

Yeah, the orange flowers look like dandelions to me, except that the color seems a bit off.

 
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